From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org-mode bugs in the Emacs bug tracker Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 08:47:08 +1100 Message-ID: References: <20201206092641.xv5gkqcwbpc5gau7@E15-2016.optimum.net> <87o8j1537q.fsf@bzg.fr> <87pn3g52gg.fsf@bzg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000096b58005b6373c19" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25283"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Bastien , Boruch Baum , Emacs-Devel List To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 11 22:49:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1knqHm-0006SG-Qf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 22:49:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58260 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knqHl-0005Qy-GA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:49:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knqG6-0004vh-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-oi1-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::234]:35151) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knqG4-0008U0-GV; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-oi1-x234.google.com with SMTP id s2so11528962oij.2; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:47:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1JPJGkJfa8S9WMUE3Ikc1Dvq6LGQN0Y0kW4Tqd/AwQs=; b=GjBSE9erX86KwviGVM5l38BuN0GDmyyKGVCPshamiHZg/vKw8y6JuTBsgvF3b7m0Sr +eSsa5bvkUE+We1BuSvmjlj9TA6xXVOK2M0+9qkLbcI2XW9SQKWA+pBX8D+kakYppOkk JFZAfnKDUmTDAR9sxB0gNFkFZpaZF6qv/RLvsqy1StMd/0dWMlGPvYZaJsN0TXEMUrWW QfGnhcsxr0ecucyL6SHBoOprrmkd1csUrawVMG37JOAjQ7BoBZxpfviMe5hp0bSidunx vGnqz3YOKDLublJeynLCEmPHyTikClwoV0lnRpDSPC2vfT3rLSEcEKIynKDcGtVx1Uj3 09rg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1JPJGkJfa8S9WMUE3Ikc1Dvq6LGQN0Y0kW4Tqd/AwQs=; b=E80zxoaWNi5en30quaJROUwGEXgYMeyv8Drr7uE/reZtu6fyIcmlCt+lcFK0ylZL2C PHbIKQSZeMpuDhyABH2TvobzWK4TsZVyF0qOT+1KTatTV/bZiVycARIgvWP5xUX11+qJ Vf3GVnTmuYsuf8yxGb80hcDklG6JNaJeWDIQatYT1Gf7WaoIU88I8PFlVlLUbfiFy4uR YsBR8qON5UI2WYhCn+RPvdhfKDu85fyOrGIbU6CgwgcIywKX3Gk1nM1tgw0dSQG6YYr0 vfl1/mjpWNXEZzwS7UwTwdfqwHVgVfPLoj3ot9fYXxQ6j/9VHT27gNS8Wi5KbP9O60OQ jaeA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533DN6+mPb6lqpZN29A58xKfGs6lJkAMLRiyzjpOIJTar0mtGGBz zq+TRIV1qMDdQsd88GU0fKWxKbeawtj+ef1rEqE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwYnW3WJSkBgp0KFOsgPVccjyeiXt5hYwLD6GvUSk7KFS6hTi3vUDcWwSwAheA870KqWl7zM71YZKVEh5MshDw= X-Received: by 2002:aca:5351:: with SMTP id h78mr10902083oib.171.1607723239518; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:47:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::234; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-oi1-x234.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260701 Archived-At: --00000000000096b58005b6373c19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" What is https://updates.orgmode.org? when I try that url, I get a 502 bad gateway error. The bit I find frustrating is I don't know where bug submitted to emacs-orgmode@gnu.org get tracked i.e. those which are only submitted to the list and are not passed to the list from debbugs.gnu.org. I see bug reports come through on the list and I sometimes see patches posted to the list to address a bug, but where can I go to see the status of all currently known bugs and see threads relating to work in resolving the bugs etc. I don't mind if this means checking multiple repositories (though it would be better if there was one definitive repository). Is there some place where all bugs reported to emacs-orgmode list are tracked? For example, if tomorrow I find I have some spare time and would like to contribute to org mode by seeing if I can fix a bug, where can I go to find a list of bugs with current details about the status (including whether someone else is already working to resolve it). Tim On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 00:13, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Bastien writes: > > > Stefan Kangas writes: > > > >> 3. Leave it all alone; continue as we have been. > > > > I think the one above is okay, as long as (1) we clearly encourage > > users to send bugs to emacs-orgmode@gnu.org and (2) we find someone in > > Org's community in charge of handling org-related Emacs debbugs bugs. > > Thanks. But in addition to emacs-orgmode@gnu.org there are then three > places to look for Org-mode bugs: > > 1. https://updates.orgmode.org/ > 2. https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=org-mode > 3. https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs > > I therefore still think we should consider getting rid of at least one > of the last two for org-mode bugs. > > (My preference would be to reassign any relevant bugs to org-mode, but > either way should help make things clearer.) > > WDYT? > > -- regards, Tim -- Tim Cross --00000000000096b58005b6373c19 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What is https://up= dates.orgmode.org? when I try that url, I get a 502 bad gateway error.<= div>
The bit I find frustrating is I don't know where bug= submitted to emacs-orgmode@gnu.or= g get tracked i.e. those which are only submitted to the list and are n= ot passed to the list from debbugs.gnu.o= rg. I see bug reports come through on the list and I sometimes see patc= hes posted to the list to address a bug, but where can I go to see the stat= us of all currently known bugs and see threads relating to work in resolvin= g the bugs etc. I don't mind if this means checking multiple repositori= es (though it would be better if there was one definitive repository).=C2= =A0

Is there some place where all bugs reported to= emacs-orgmode=C2=A0list are tracked? For example, if tomorrow I find I hav= e=C2=A0some spare time and would like to contribute to org mode by seeing i= f I can fix a bug, where can I go to find a list of bugs with current detai= ls about the status (including whether someone else is already working to r= esolve it).=C2=A0

Tim

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at = 00:13, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxis= t.se> wrote:
Bastien <bzg@gnu.or= g> writes:

> Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
>
>> 3. Leave it all alone; continue as we have been.
>
> I think the one above is okay, as long as (1) we clearly encourage
> users to send bugs to emacs-orgmode@gnu.org and (2) we find someone in
> Org's community in charge of handling org-related Emacs debbugs bu= gs.

Thanks.=C2=A0 But in addition to emacs-orgmode@gnu.org there are then three
places to look for Org-mode bugs:

1. https://updates.orgmode.org/
2. https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport= .cgi?package=3Dorg-mode
3. https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cg= i?package=3Demacs

I therefore still think we should consider getting rid of at least one
of the last two for org-mode bugs.

(My preference would be to reassign any relevant bugs to org-mode, but
either way should help make things clearer.)

WDYT?



--
regards,

Tim

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Tim Cross

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