From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs for pure Gtk3 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:35:07 +1100 Message-ID: References: <20200426.165604.2054625945129238824.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <834kt673cy.fsf@gnu.org> <20201117.235000.1193207765247665462.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <87ima063rf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f7c76a05b4a66907" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13765"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , Emacs developers To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 22 00:36:48 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kgcQv-0003U0-M0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 00:36:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42312 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kgcQu-0000Zw-Ok for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 18:36:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kgcPa-0007hr-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 18:35:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-x330.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::330]:37267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kgcPY-0002zw-7W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 18:35:21 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x330.google.com with SMTP id l36so12483767ota.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:35:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=PtugBzoREjr6zvk+SFL9NVYkCqMyDgCLPDRPxD9xIhs=; b=J/Htag38btt/Tkg/9IvOW2IPXZ5a6ndyZDDIhoRAjxwfsGpRg7ds2+vjcb8ouPOClv aFbPFrKIBaRXbiH3Pj0HPBGPFBTHugiRG/zHhCaOhZQtZ3rF9MXb25Tv5oQ2T41Qwph6 WbdIKv/j4QFV0p7tus6JFtnTdXKitqA9Bq+oyLFwIlV065VGE7vjBPvW5ajReMsyq9U3 BWD6lt0jg3iWMADOmt8fKMih6ELSHUwCdZ7lMLuvS14bTbOf3y0b164DUTruuzfmbLWi e1n2lg/0XsefEBlHOkE0tznta+S8kzyopmnzgAaA+9OWOnWFxaH3FFv/8Bklpm2ZgiMd M9HA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PtugBzoREjr6zvk+SFL9NVYkCqMyDgCLPDRPxD9xIhs=; b=DpNvkQ6CwOU9x7z5LhC/buKyHSYPRUsvfn4SKLfOBym6c3v989GVZl+fT5uIqQJrkh 8jUzMixUwAdo5P86orjHRsJTD0DyW6YGa8dlpai4ls5Pq0DYQgVcN6SsAKeznS4siRcx oDxlcVYcS36cNQoG1uYz9lBCMyZfpg2fPoD4XWc1u588n3vais7v5y6m+ph+D7CZsXDB +J07Y/7ETO27fJFW7mhTZT5nfLO0tbbQJUxUM7Wa1mha0QQweMU/dh+1L0m3r8v/J5TU aKEBPpTFOBVzxAIbLJrEc4bR5+wybwftF+DGb/zJU4hxSm/gJ/IbokQWid9PuwjNkNS1 dfNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532ubl1Vdugteg4CsD1bqrrdk165VvGGoBEN+LbYEvvuKcSTS/zg +klv4F4qpBgGLjp4uEVrerPpCfTrMFzhWxji70Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxjbItluTRhNhIGqsNl2r/X8EqUXcBcQf52eyEzxlHI/Jx9BkP3/DE6aNnmHiHFLAqCI3777Q6SB6bAx2+D5Ts= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:620d:: with SMTP id g13mr17622791otj.56.1606001718969; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::330; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-ot1-x330.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259565 Archived-At: --000000000000f7c76a05b4a66907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 19:55, Jean Louis wrote: > * Tim Cross [2020-11-20 10:12]: > > Yes, from the github repo. Was interested to see how it looked and too > > impatient to wait until it is merged into a feature branch :-) > > Make a screenshot. > Sorry, only just saw this and I've already switched back to my 'normal' setup (based on emacs 27.1). I did find a couple of minor 'quirks', but don't know if they might not have just been minor issues in current head anyway. I did have to start the pgtk image with --no-x-resources switch to prevent it from segfaulting. It doesn't look a lot different than normal Emacs. Those with more of an eye for the subtle aesthetics might notice more. I did notice that the fonts sizes were larger i.e. same font specification gave slightly larger fonts. Also noticed that on a couple of occasions, initial layout for something complex was a bit 'jumpy'. For example, I tried running spacemacs (which worked quite well) and the initial spash screen was all out of alignment initially (at the end of loading it re-aligned and was fine). So, probably not quite ready for day to day use, but still pretty good and likely to be a real bonus for those running under Wayland who would like to get rid of the X layer completely. Emacs was one of the 2 reasons I stopped running Wauyland and switched back to X - the other being I was also running stumpwm (part of a little experiment I was doing where I was trying to make as much of my environment on tools based on a lisp/functional approach as possible (stumpwm, emacs, nyxt, rep, guile, clojure, clojurescirpt etc). Tim -- regards, Tim -- Tim Cross --000000000000f7c76a05b4a66907 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 19:55, Jean Lo= uis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
* Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> [2020-11-20 10:12]:
> Yes, from the github repo. Was interested to see how it looked and too=
> impatient to wait until it is merged into a feature branch :-)

Make a screenshot.

Sorry, only just saw this and I&#= 39;ve already switched back to my 'normal' setup (based on emacs 27= .1).=C2=A0

I did find a couple of minor 'quirk= s', but don't know if they might not have just been minor issues in= current head anyway.=C2=A0

I did have to start th= e pgtk image with --no-x-resources switch to prevent it from segfaulting.= =C2=A0

It doesn't look a lot different than no= rmal Emacs. Those with more of an eye for the subtle aesthetics might notic= e more. I did notice that the fonts sizes were larger i.e. same font specif= ication gave slightly larger fonts. Also noticed that on a couple of occasi= ons, initial layout for something complex was a bit 'jumpy'. For ex= ample, I tried running spacemacs (which worked quite well) and the initial = spash screen was all out of alignment initially (at the end of loading it r= e-aligned and was fine).=C2=A0

So, probably not qu= ite ready for day to day use, but still pretty good and likely to be a real= bonus for those running under Wayland who would like to get rid of the X l= ayer completely. Emacs was one of the 2 reasons I stopped running Wauyland = and switched back to X - the other being I was also running stumpwm (part o= f a little experiment I was doing where I was trying to make as much of my = environment=C2=A0 on tools based on a lisp/functional approach as possible = (stumpwm, emacs, nyxt, rep, guile, clojure, clojurescirpt etc).=C2=A0
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Tim
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regards,

Tim

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Tim Cross

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