From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathias Dahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: splash-screen Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:03:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87d02ej7bq.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e8f1fa05aff683bf" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27191"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , nicolas.rougier@inria.fr To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 23 10:05:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kKzls-0006xC-Pe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:05:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40826 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKzlr-0003Y8-S8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 04:04:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKzkD-0002Fj-Jv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 04:03:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vs1-xe30.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::e30]:36756) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKzkB-0001r7-DZ; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 04:03:17 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vs1-xe30.google.com with SMTP id j185so11916364vsc.3; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:03:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NqPf9ErRdvzQ1500KRGg6uVDpb7mPYA2J0C0uDbKS38=; b=HjPFc8EkBCJ8/kvY7UouiUAH0LIlFK20QEyK442ZI/TMoGYMFjpORoHL1R6SSZJKgA fdsnsgqzRMfZKXpHuybykJ5bZYCyCs/zASvKkBsYrzddZ4RkAA3uTHQyOfUzCDUVOV/G KW0vWROWNkXoc1Gd2GMrGic87fyKMCr7045rj1uwH0QpK+uaTDTvywxdqoiZjYnqSomh 5qn6/RSlTYorQ7q5OJbJmRKSIVzH5aBhqiDRpEZ8F0pJKeKuQxVwlVvZVf0RYHAwBdhY hI/+P7NUy1ZoJRFmTRobIKWEKgpUCfN330ZVI17k3BC7vwmPeF2ZLmVu2DHJhqJ4Xctw JKKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NqPf9ErRdvzQ1500KRGg6uVDpb7mPYA2J0C0uDbKS38=; b=lz6dbkjOuWoDVNJ/sPdFFZCCRmLJelgfg9yBz66ZvmS36VLTPjtfQ67VtJ+F1Nwwl7 qq2QS9M1bgYHWWnsq3sJ1EYvIeFjpeS7FLgXJPV3eByrBkizYZrVVNIpv7qEvd98sz5z QfyBxWXJCPRODKcFJPkKUcp4sfRSAGI9mye8SlChoOWiEfGMRFGT7E1pAMRmtNJwtTkN NA0/7D35wFQzCJznj90T+UNgaieg52w1KsEdNudLhRpdYkRHVzZb75z3HxmteOpbhj65 aM1CEZRoW1TF6Wxyit5KikHCT7f2b3uTpk0lCNLC1aT7qyE4JaW3D5th4iUcRj1dcmy1 7ZWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531aBfRT1SHja2dW9LYNbEcudvcQv60xg/NYsjBsmBzQkrhtTB8M h/TNYCCWQgPJG9CgbjwDq0FWcGofaPaplVNiC5ks+i8v9WEXmg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz6/nITdEKEINTOaev63rIBHkgqCvRmbpY+DNyQS9X4OjgUrvrR/tGznIvMxgM1rAX24SySTzgWkStK5oQALww= X-Received: by 2002:a67:7710:: with SMTP id s16mr6317471vsc.3.1600848193449; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:03:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::e30; envelope-from=mathias.dahl@gmail.com; helo=mail-vs1-xe30.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256350 Archived-At: --000000000000e8f1fa05aff683bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > We need to preserve that line, and the copyright and license, due to > > legal concerns. > > Why? I can't think of a single other program which displays such things > in its startup/splash screen. > Agree. "Legal people" don't seem to have problems hiding things in hard-to-find places ("make sure to read the small print", etc), so shouldn't the fact that this information is already there under the Help menu be enough to make them happy/have Emacs or GNU stay out of trouble? Or can we have it in a smaller font (I know, it will not help in the terminal). Or shorten it ("Warranty") and make it clickable. --000000000000e8f1fa05aff683bf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> We need to preserve that line, and the copyright an= d license, due to
> legal concerns.

Why?=C2=A0 I can't think of a single other program which displays such = things
in its startup/splash screen.

Agree.

"Legal people" don't seem to have prob= lems hiding things in hard-to-find places ("make sure to read the smal= l print", etc), so shouldn't the fact that this information is alr= eady there under the Help menu be enough to make them happy/have Emacs or G= NU stay out of trouble? Or can we have it in a smaller font (I know, it wil= l not help in the terminal). Or shorten it ("Warranty") and make = it clickable.


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