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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262546 Archived-At: Am Di., 5. Jan. 2021 um 20:06 Uhr schrieb Daniel Mart=C3=ADn : > > martin rudalics writes: > > >>> I'd then try to make it behave like 'M-g g' in this regard. > >> > >> Some interactive versions of low-level primitives have the suffix > >> `...-command' in their names, so a command like 'M-g g' and bound to > >> 'M-g c' could be named 'goto-char-command'. > > > > I was more concerned about not pushing the mark when the region is > > already active so one can use M-g c to extend the region. BTW, is ther= e > > a reason why 'goto-map' is so terribly unpopulated? > > > > This sounds like a good idea: > > - Create a 'goto-char-command' command in ELisp. > > - Move the interactive spec that is in 'goto-char' to this new command > and make it push the mark smartly (e.g. be careful when a region is > active). Then call 'goto-char'. There's no need the change goto-char; it can remain an interactive command. > > - Rebind 'M-g c' to 'goto-char-command'. > > - Announce the new command. > > What do you think? Could it break something? Thanks. It will break users that expect the current behavior, so maybe there should be a customization option that initially defaults to off.