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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>,
	Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Remote asynchronous processes
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:00:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkTUaFv1ZQ_o7qQR2JoRA2d1UdOGzafXYpN2Wv8tnk+KbA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGK7Mr5pHdVo2g0kfEjXcV6qaEp=AcfnM2No-x+qfjqsG+wyNg@mail.gmail.com>

Am Di., 14. Apr. 2020 um 14:35 Uhr schrieb Philippe Vaucher
<philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>:
>>
>> But that's not the point of my proposal. If we change make-process such a
>> way that it calls the command directly, we will gain a performace
>> boost. Philipp Stephani has shown some figures in the discussion
>> mentioned above. Maybe he can explain more detailed which kind of
>> performance requirements he has in mind, and the use case(s).
>>
>> However, we will loose features of remote asynchronous processes. At
>> least (and not comprehensive), processes started via make-process
>>
>> - are not checked for passwords or other interactive dialogues
>> - do not not support multi-hops anymore
>> - cannot be killed via interrupt-process (??? I'm not sure)
>> - do not tell the remote tty
>> - ...
>>
>> Processes started via start-file-process won't change their behavior.
>
>
> So basically what you need to know is how `make-process` is used in the wild. If that helps, magit only uses `start-file-process` and never `make-process`.
>

There are lots of different use cases, and no single correct answer.
For example, when running M-x shell, I probably want SSH prompts and
am willing to accept a brief blocking wait, but not when starting a
Flymake backend process.
I don't think there's a real difference between start-file-process and
make-process, though; make-process is newer and more powerful, but
it's not a conceptually different thing.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-04 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-13 10:19 Remote asynchronous processes Michael Albinus
2020-04-13 20:32 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-14  9:03   ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-14 12:34     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-14 14:28       ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 17:00       ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2020-04-14 14:48     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-14 15:30       ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 17:01       ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-04 16:56     ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-04 17:35       ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-10 14:42         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-06 11:59 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 16:48 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-04 17:31   ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-10 14:56     ` Philipp Stephani
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-07-29 16:58 Felipe Lema
2020-07-31 10:22 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 12:27   ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 16:06     ` Felipe Lema
2020-08-06 19:08     ` Sean Whitton
2020-08-09  7:22       ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-09 14:47         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-09 17:06           ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-12 10:46         ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-21 22:28           ` Sean Whitton
2020-08-07 16:28   ` Philipp Stephani

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