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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Philipp Stephani <phst@google.com>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add module functions to convert from and to big integers.
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 19:28:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkT77BGUGP5o7BR-V2xwoQJqMdWmOaYgLh9NqsVErAp7nA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y33z1fnh.fsf@gnu.org>

Am Mi., 24. Apr. 2019 um 19:23 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
>
> > From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 19:15:13 +0200
> > Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
> >       Philipp Stephani <phst@google.com>
> >
> > > > 1. Don't support these functions at all if GMP isn't available (i.e.
> > > > signal an error unconditionally)
> > > > 2. Add another preprocessor macro that would stop emacs-module.h from
> > > > including gmp.h.
> > > >
> > > > (1) seems a bit easier and cleaner, but means that we wouldn't support
> > > > these functions if Emacs isn't compiled with GMP support.
> > >
> > > I don't think I understand (2): how would you declare GMP-related data
> > > types used in emacs-module.c, if you don't include gmp.h?
> >
> > It would require the user (or rather, Emacs) to include gmp.h or
> > mini-gmp.h before including emacs-module.h. I.e.:
> >
> > #ifndef EMACS_MODULE_DO_NOT_INCLUDE_GMP_H
> > #include <gmp.h>
> > #endif
>
> Ah, okay.  But then what would emacs-module.c do with these 2 new APIs
> if gmp.h was not included?

It would include mini-gmp.h instead before including emacs-module.h.
I'm testing this right now, but I think it should work.

>
> > > And there might be option (3): have emacs-module.h duplicate the
> > > portion of mini-gmp.h that are needed when gmp.h isn't available.
> > > It's a bit inelegant, and maintenance burden, but maybe not grave
> > > enough to decide that wer cannot support bignums without a real GMP.
> >
> > I don't think we should replicate internal data structures of
> > third-party libraries. It's really ugly.
>
> mini-gmp.h is not third-party, it's Emacs.

Still, replicating internal data structures and making sure that they
stay ABI-compatible is too risky and too much of a burden.

>
> The problem I'm struggling with is how can we defend lack of support
> of bignums in modules when Emacs itself does support them?

I'd definitely prefer supporting bignums if possible. The question is
just whether it's possible.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-24 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-23 13:17 [PATCH 1/2] Add conversions to and from struct timespec to module interface Philipp Stephani
2019-04-23 13:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add module functions to convert from and to big integers Philipp Stephani
2019-04-23 14:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 14:51   ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-23 15:12     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-23 15:48       ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-23 15:54         ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-02 19:17           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-03 19:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-13 18:46               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-17 18:38                 ` [PATCH] Change module interface to no longer use GMP objects directly Philipp Stephani
2019-11-18 21:21                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-19 21:12                     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-19 21:54                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-20 21:06                         ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-20 21:24                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-20 21:30                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-21  1:12                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-21 20:31                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-23  2:13                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-23 20:08                                     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-23 23:10                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-23 20:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-23 23:10                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-24  9:28                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-25 21:03                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-25 21:59                                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-04 20:31                                               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-05 14:43                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08 20:28                                                   ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-09  3:26                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09  4:58                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-12-09 13:22                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09 23:15                                                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-10  0:22                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-12-10 13:15                                                           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-10 15:57                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-14 16:06                                                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-14 19:54                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-12-09  0:35                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-12-09 13:19                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 15:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add conversions to and from struct timespec to module interface Paul Eggert
2019-04-23 21:32   ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24  7:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 11:03       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 11:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <20190423213218.35618-2-phst@google.com>
2019-04-23 21:43       ` [PATCH 2/2] Add module functions to convert from and to big integers Paul Eggert
2019-04-24 16:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 16:37         ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 16:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 16:57           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 17:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 17:15               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 17:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 17:28                   ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2019-04-24 17:51                     ` [PATCH] Unbreak build when building without GMP support Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 18:41                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 18:49                         ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 19:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 19:19                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 19:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 21:15                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25  6:04                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25  6:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:24                                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 21:34                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 19:44                     ` [PATCH 2/2] Add module functions to convert from and to big integers Stefan Monnier
2019-04-24 20:15                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-24 20:57                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-24 21:17                           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 23:32                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-24 21:19                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25  0:00                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-25  5:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:41                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 13:46                               ` [PATCH 1/2] Require full GMP when building module support Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 13:46                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Check for __attribute__ ((cleanup)) during configuration Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 21:18                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-28 18:12                                     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 14:37                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] Require full GMP when building module support Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 15:06                                   ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 16:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 17:09                                       ` [PATCH] Require full GMP for big integer module functions Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 21:00                                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-28 18:14                                           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-28 20:18                                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-28 17:10                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] Require full GMP when building module support Philipp Stephani

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