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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: `unreadablep'
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 21:21:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkS4m9Ai4unt30bhr7jaTD+GXPxqELm-8W2wqsEZE--1ow@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bl1imhnd.fsf@gnus.org>

Am Mi., 15. Dez. 2021 um 09:16 Uhr schrieb Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:
> It would be nice to have such a function (i.e., that says whether it can
> be read back after printing it).

Yes, this would be useful in many places where we need to serialize
Lisp objects (e.g. for the sandbox stuff).

>  The problem is, of course, complex
> structures that require recursing (and then checking for loops), etc, so
> you basically have to implement it the way printing is done if you want
> it to be fast, I think?

It's a DFS of a DAG, not quite rocket science. The difficulty is
rather in getting the details right (e.g. you can't allow symbols
interned in a non-default obarray because you wouldn't get the same
symbol back).

> I wonder whether this could be efficiently implemented by, say, having
> some kind of special value for PRINTCHARFUN for prin1, but I haven't
> looked at the code yet.

Maybe just introduce another C function `prin1-if-readable' or so that
errors out (with a specific error symbol so that callers can catch it)
if the object can't be printed in a readable way. That should also
bind the print variables correctly (e.g. bind print-level to nil) so
ensure that the result really represents an equivalent List object.
The new function would likely reuse the existing `print' machinery,
with the `escapeflag' parameter turned into a generic `flags' enum.
I guess it would make sense to also forbid some "exotic" objects
(circular objects, uninterned symbols) that rarely make sense to
serialize.



      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-15 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-15  7:49 `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15  8:19 ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15  8:35   ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15  9:42     ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 11:16       ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 11:25         ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:19           ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 12:22             ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:35               ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 12:42                 ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:44                   ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 12:46                     ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:51                       ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:58                       ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 12:36               ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 12:37                 ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 17:00     ` [External] : `unreadablep' Drew Adams
2021-12-15  8:35 ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15  9:51   ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 10:20     ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 10:21       ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 10:21       ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 10:36         ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 10:44           ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 11:12             ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 11:16               ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 11:39                 ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 14:12 ` `unreadablep' Stefan Monnier
2021-12-16  5:48   ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-16  8:03     ` `unreadablep' Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17  7:18       ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-16 15:35     ` `unreadablep' Qiantan Hong
2021-12-17  7:19       ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 15:32 ` `unreadablep' Steingold
2021-12-15 16:04   ` `unreadablep' Qiantan Hong
2021-12-15 16:09 ` `unreadablep' Steingold
2021-12-15 20:21 ` Philipp Stephani [this message]

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