From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Philipp Stephani Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Concurrency, again Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 16:48:47 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <86k2dk77w6.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <9D64B8EA-DB52-413D-AE6A-264416C391F3@iotcl.com> <83int1g0s5.fsf@gnu.org> <83twckekqq.fsf@gnu.org> <83funkwfzf.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122f07ce10168053fb348bd X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477414186 29626 195.159.176.226 (25 Oct 2016 16:49:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 16:49:46 +0000 (UTC) To: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 25 18:49:42 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bz4ui-00059r-9i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:49:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56489 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bz4uk-0001wI-J5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 12:49:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bz4uM-0001l3-53 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 12:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bz4uL-0006IL-AJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 12:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]:34283) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bz4uJ-0006GS-J3; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 12:48:59 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id d128so5406153wmf.1; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 09:48:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8Zx6IoYNIJ71T7xcC6AAeqpQfE8UEp/+VPMrW3IflYQ=; b=EYpavzr2DV3UYyf666cwd9QN4adHAVkr4Qc6gInGVGlewA0DFh/bF0vJh5A8jr6JTJ OwgPrshAxS7WRGQeIuT/N4fiBpYEeT4EZQSwODQ82CTzIRuheDYPNhOqZgYpGKNEtHU3 7lwALUltwd8ZnkjZUcNPFtVvUHT96r4QnkDb1QXT10PMSxAeH4aMXZ+RI6QwxJUIIukt 5/eWt+Qt2bXBP41jcGS16yGDBKi46DbcvZ4jKobwNR66m9oi4dZOIpJtUQPd/ML7YNwv xrVbAmExeflhpVoBoJRFOFxeXZ339pbucQYCQz2iOaa6h1rfH5w1HFRt2b3olrtFry70 qvkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=8Zx6IoYNIJ71T7xcC6AAeqpQfE8UEp/+VPMrW3IflYQ=; b=mDGPiYsdyAoc4cdFpFY0uovtRpIhNx8HFzDTgTjETbivI7Q0ptdfLgPpVIyfTHlDsy oDKybH7MyqBMFPNN4ZjNAFzg/j0VN/D/OEUtkvA+9fEFZpOFBycxLhU6I+i+8jK0fKQ6 6Rr5EcY+IptDYe7D3x0XsxU8B3CFgvukWaepX+7nDt9JJ8O4wq2jtuoDEmvzMLiNLrjP +Zu9IfFXdR72VcerRPV5GKHWfAXhvXmkIK1SdN2KCFd+br9kHDHNzZlNRcglDJITTnK6 x81P8m+181ppY4e9u5/q3z45BNUHT3fFqrSPjRSGonNZxBd1NQ3+G2F412TxW9iILCc+ FBdA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvfE3KRkSj6fbXcwdJeyn/wiYFuGFDuJ8u/ghBL0Jor/5pQN2Gx6c7wVrKNKQdy4afGlvTKcs57wpP4Mrg== X-Received: by 10.194.170.163 with SMTP id an3mr17889810wjc.73.1477414137951; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 09:48:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208786 Archived-At: --089e0122f07ce10168053fb348bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 John Wiegley schrieb am Di., 25. Okt. 2016 um 18:45 Uhr: > >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > EZ> My suggestion is to "learn by doing", collect experience, and _then_ > EZ> discuss the design issues based on that experience. > > I'm open to this. I'd *like* to see exploration of alternative paradigms > for > expressing concurrency, so merging in the concurrency branch shouldn't be > seen > as closing the door, or setting anything in stone. > > That might be the intention, but I expect the outcome will be that interest in alternative paradigms gets lost (unless such alternative paradigms would also be merged and be available in parallel). --089e0122f07ce10168053fb348bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


John W= iegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>= schrieb am Di., 25. Okt. 2016 um 18:45=C2=A0Uhr:
>>>>> "EZ" =3D=3D Eli Zaretskii <= ;eliz= @gnu.org> writes:
EZ> My suggestion is to = "learn by doing", collect experience, and _then_
EZ> discuss the design issues based on that experience.

I'm open to this. I'd *like* to see exploration of alternative para= digms for
expressing concurrency, so merging in the concurrency branch shouldn't = be seen
as closing the door, or setting anything in stone.


That might be the = intention, but I expect the outcome will be that interest in alternative pa= radigms gets lost (unless such alternative paradigms would also be merged a= nd be available in parallel).=C2=A0
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