From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Philipp Stephani Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Un-deprecating oset Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 15:04:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eery1xhe.fsf@bernoul.li> <87a72d42h2.fsf@bernoul.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="111995"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Monnier , Emacs developers To: Jonas Bernoulli Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 13 15:05:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYr4v-000T13-10 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 May 2020 15:05:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54152 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYr4u-00008F-2m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 May 2020 09:05:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYr3k-0007PG-U1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2020 09:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi1-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b]:36492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYr3j-0004Zf-8G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2020 09:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id x7so20423371oic.3 for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 06:04:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=v6yf7Zq+uBAH+cn6EBgvPo00M1xK94LCkdMeBCXd2JA=; b=bz0kWoAjxuNpPqZ935ZD9FIurwt87AyPGk67GW0cHMKKQxF2Aj2AEgGoBuiu9+ehfm LEhJOLxvSWJFfoH6oqFjypf4/gaE0ZIwfHKszLVIdu35Q+GR579WS/UACmDcHLyZMBW2 RvC3lZf7jFepYk717FRN4q2XFTL2oWcY9DtvGvuOzr0lLTwTt1Uf/SI1k/WZk900Rv/b WpLZqcUJtLkJ6vhtA7v3TNSn7Ieq5DYFxhcKYUXzUh4J4ea+kxTYfC7rYifzNefYd5bD 9qbwSfcUQ64TRz6Xu5PtlWjpS//+2o5lOCuGJvhefG+LyJUA16X3vHOiBwL6+L8TTsS8 fiwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=v6yf7Zq+uBAH+cn6EBgvPo00M1xK94LCkdMeBCXd2JA=; b=hUIAyQUd8eGiJ62GQE9Gy6eDAuQxBzdI0B9AY5GJzFmXbbpB/ivjiTGIIlvBuGevRG MgQtA1DAUEgsIgRa63EQzK1BJ34DgRqJmr2EcTfFGpSMTcsxgk7xjJBCJ6UF1dh8ceGN tYlSPzMNOz+I+bb5rztK95M0A/9xxNpJ7YbrkEWrmQ7PFBLY972PmKsfwiIbBTS0ZtJJ qeTK/B97jwf0iMgWwAYK5THvXaVjA2vs0NPgh0FUP/zOsL8nnrE2fOmEZXI3LE3A+flG MxgoWVrxxrKttFtGOKMr6vBVBDRQyDuFabWUt+pPPSjqpcdopQGN0o5mpVoawf7gfsdO 9hFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Puawcvj7yj6hb9w27Q/E8i7uPJ23TJJUHmo55uVhaA3R/nPJES6n m440VMWbKwZb9xj2JogMmf8gl9CjkEdZW8uzEx0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ8b2woto5xsrnNLWEV+wzpKDU1w4pMDBrpPov8Hi1bmfIOTwqGwgotlway+HFOerPy5tLbDdDPncuLe6JuzTA= X-Received: by 2002:aca:f182:: with SMTP id p124mr27515014oih.170.1589375065781; Wed, 13 May 2020 06:04:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a72d42h2.fsf@bernoul.li> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b; envelope-from=p.stephani2@gmail.com; helo=mail-oi1-x22b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250122 Archived-At: Am Di., 12. Mai 2020 um 17:32 Uhr schrieb Jonas Bernoulli : > > Well, it seems nobody else (who has noticed so far) shares my opinion > (enough to comment here). I definitely agree that oset shouldn't be deprecated. Not that I like it with a passion, but we should in general never deprecate anything that isn't actually broken or causes trouble. This deprecation seems to be mostly motivated by a desire for hypothetical cleanliness, which isn't a good enough reason.