From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to restore the layout? Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:00:37 +0200 Message-ID: References: <51C5AA68.4000204@alice.it> <51C8B2C8.4000803@gmx.at> <51C93CDB.2020301@gmx.at> <51C9C790.3020407@gmx.at> <51CA0D4C.7080204@alice.it> <51CC3E42.7020409@alice.it> <51CC4CC1.3030202@alice.it> <51CC8403.1030009@gmx.at> <51CCA56A.8000508@gmx.at> <51CD49CF.1090103@gmx.at> <51CD5489.10902@gmx.at> <2FB4C583-960C-4DA8-8B2E-29DF8D96770E@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372421448 20261 80.91.229.3 (28 Jun 2013 12:10:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Angelo Graziosi , Emacs developers , martin rudalics , Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , Stephen Berman , Jambunathan K To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 28 14:10:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UsXVo-0003IP-O5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:10:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55753 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsXVo-0004Bg-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54566) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsXVY-0003vh-Jg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:10:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsXVV-0003M5-I4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:10:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::230]:49581) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsXMc-0000dk-3z; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f48.google.com with SMTP id b47so975604eek.21 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:01:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eo9r0ves5CUXUMBa879j+lT+Xd/kzGtcgMb9/wEpYi8=; b=X0x9WE2lwKEQQSbhvXE8Ve4H0SLUhoaznJRBHQ5RKxcYFUTYpiuRQJITFAxzpSe1vV s1mLOnqT1h+C9CXuKJXci+4tcD6eNgcrcTN5909ujgvC0OxQU7QFdKchkacRC/Db94dK KcsV/uGM1lvWBZgGMBLAuVcCs/u3GbpIsvgtr0gdzSZ275KQq6Svr/TL0jn2m31TTaXm MxuuzM5Vlrnyp2ea319Z1zESjk3aLX/fxSizWy7+xzLYMSw6clqlZDdldaHagq1mI3Nc LVG5MI0jhENtib5vf8LBHJhlSM0iwcZg70GQeg+z0ui90IhQOgfT2oekOXB3IH1D5DZO f9WA== X-Received: by 10.15.21.78 with SMTP id c54mr13442880eeu.14.1372420877095; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:00:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2FB4C583-960C-4DA8-8B2E-29DF8D96770E@swipnet.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c00::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161191 Archived-At: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote= : > It is overkill to to that, just make the frames and maximize/fullscreen t= hem > as they where when the desktop was saved. It is a mistake to try to be a > window manager and force frames to exact positions. What you call a mistake, I call the main thing that would make the save&restore feature worth using for me. I don't want frames restored if they are not at the same place they were before. > For example, a common use case for me is to have multiple monitors at wor= k. > I have some Emacs frames at these monitors. When I get home, I don't hav= e > these monitors, just the laptop screen. Where does my Emacs frames end > up in your scheme when I'm at home? Offscreen at some unaccessable coordi= nate? This is an interesting use case which we will have to deal with at some point. But I'm sure the more common use case will be people using s&r in the same computer with the same setup. If we don't save the frame sizes and positions (and, if posible, max/full state) you can bet we'll get an endless stream of bug reports (not wishlist enhancements, but bug reports) about that behavior. I would personally file the first one. J