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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246109 Archived-At: --00000000000025452a05a2282fdd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:51 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > We still want to support Windows 9X. > > Do we? Do you know (of) someone using a recentish Emacs on Windows 9X? No, I don't, but I had people running Emacs on Windows 9X just a couple of years ago or so. Anyway, the argument (not mine, Richard's and Eli's, I think) has been that there are people, mostly in third world countries, with no access to modern hardware or the possibility to upgrade to newer Windows. The counter-argument is that they can run older Emacs, of course. Perhaps. I don't really want to argue one way or another, to me whether to support Windows 9X or not is decided by whoever bears the burden of maintainership. > > Did I misunderstand him? > > Yes, he described the extra efforts that we should spend to try and > provide support for those hypothetical Windows 9X users out there. Yes, I did misunderstand him, or yes he said what I think and you disagree? (I'm assuming the latter.) --00000000000025452a05a2282fdd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:51 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> w= rote:
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> > We still want to support Windows 9X.
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= > Do we?=C2=A0 Do you know (of) someone using a recentish Emacs on Windo= ws 9X?

No, I don't, but I had people running Emacs o= n Windows 9X just a couple of years ago or so.

Anyway, the argument = (not mine, Richard's and Eli's, I think) has been that there are pe= ople, mostly in third world countries, with no access to modern hardware or= the possibility to upgrade to newer Windows. The counter-argument is that = they can run older Emacs, of course. Perhaps. I don't really want to ar= gue one way or another, to me whether to support Windows 9X or not is decid= ed by whoever bears the burden of maintainership.

> > Did I mi= sunderstand him?
>
> Yes, he described the extra eff= orts that we should spend to try and
> provide support for those hypo= thetical Windows 9X users out there.

Yes, I did misunderstand him, o= r yes he said what I think and you disagree? (I'm assuming the latter.)=

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