From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:54:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: <523ED74D.4030205@online.de> <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> <87li2o7onv.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379879720 30535 80.91.229.3 (22 Sep 2013 19:55:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" , Emacs developers To: Thien-Thi Nguyen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 22 21:55:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VNpkY-00014a-T8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:55:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36469 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNpkY-0006YA-Gu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:55:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNpkW-0006Xg-82 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:55:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNpkV-0005jk-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:55:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::22c]:37164) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNpkU-0005jI-4j; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:55:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r16so1312988ead.31 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=A9om9LgsAYBP4XLKOW1Ch6x30QgJoGWuQkBxdQAL0b0=; b=Wy9el+Q8J3cC7Dqx6skM26ZVKPie7dobvMgn4070Zys9xP5re4QTMAtgenKNjCEmMO oYU5T7qLNwTSCg5WECUod30+6asHauwdagPoCgFrCzlOrq1eZOi+WrP6NjR6OYonu/CM 1FDD7gLizt8EOABqkTmVogsGcb4OaFAoEPx42rl6eaBD4yJ0YDgIDeoB7xNtfzq9BlgE 4cpQjHWWmeg7gUJr2Gqp3U4CgXYMHdWyjbCzKYCkEPpQltP6Lmh1dkzSxG2szRxMS6/D HVEUrOFUp0i59/brM23xkqDTMoYkk8MsZdvw6Xq5kXTKfL9Ds5bYDcWef+NVtxFtgVWJ CwGg== X-Received: by 10.14.180.73 with SMTP id i49mr79989eem.55.1379879716645; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.133.15 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:54:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87li2o7onv.fsf@zigzag.favinet> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c01::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163557 Archived-At: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > in a few years, [...] as Emacs 42 [...] So, that's what an optimist looks like... J