From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making --with-wide-int the default (was: Dynamic loading progress) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:26:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87bnl1vmqf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vbj8tow4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3twtagf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <85siebl7ws.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85a90ilwmm.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83386a6f7z.fsf@gnu.org> <85h9upjz7v.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83wq3k3kl4.fsf@gnu.org> <85bnkwil1c.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83pp9cwky8.fsf@gnu.org> <85a90ggf2d.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <54E0A40F.5080603@dancol.org> <83sie7un20.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0D181.2080802@dancol.org> <83r3trulse.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0D7E0.305@87.69.4.28> <83h9unukbg.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0DEF8.7020901@dancol> <83egpruiyp.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0FF93.2000104@dancol.org> <5610ED13.1010406@dancol.org> <56117F37.9060808@dancol.org> <83oag087gs.fsf@gnu.org> <83oafz70im.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c34a42d5bcd5052233b85a X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444980443 19859 80.91.229.3 (16 Oct 2015 07:27:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 07:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 16 09:27:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmzQ0-0001SY-4G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:27:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51309 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmzPy-0006tj-7e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48022) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmzPu-0006tL-LU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmzPt-0007Ek-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:27:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c]:33077) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmzPr-0007CU-W0; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: by lbbpp2 with SMTP id pp2so64236406lbb.0; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:27:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=i4JhE+uMZ/7mawPfA4uns2xGdQ2UUfzY8XNH62lapSI=; b=cwj7MKOeTweolDYJvTwaa2+/hYN1WfDhHQvkQXCSPD58gaQj8CH6rk1BQa11v67/dc FIt7vLEClZtAcD+k0yzTsFrf8fvImjCbBAI3uqPBhUV6WnFhEBXiT2qT5sZYNaWl2PLZ Gwg9d6sf/kaIJYiWpR4eLf5TdYxM4T2YgUA01T241bSBXrPUKzYULhKkPpbRJJswixM3 PhddApYNN+41D00xX0enJQ9tcUfl+A+qHXqi0Gfhc0BLk5M7ur+OqGnfaptWGfXmjyvu sQnVIcpdJFHvl4BF/EVrOkQrrY+S9AUraxgInMSflls1wZR4NM/pKnbNWSIPNN3t9Tkr +YCQ== X-Received: by 10.112.167.8 with SMTP id zk8mr7349395lbb.15.1444980423242; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.217.135 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:26:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83oafz70im.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191712 Archived-At: --001a11c34a42d5bcd5052233b85a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > There's some slowdown, but it all but disappears in an optimized > build. Hmm, I just built with --with-wide-int, and I don't notice the slowdown, perhaps because I also build with -O0 and --enable-checking=yes,glyphs, so it's already a bit slow. > In any case, the time to make the decision is NOW, because this will > need time for us to be sure any serious bugs are fixed before Emacs > 25.1 is released. Then perhaps we should enable it in all 32-bit platforms and just wait for the fallout. We can always fall back to the current default if things don't look good. --001a11c34a42d5bcd5052233b85a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> There= 's some slowdown, but it all but disappears in an optimized
> bui= ld.

Hmm, I just built with --with-wide-int, and I = don't notice the slowdown, perhaps because I also build with -O0 and --= enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs, so it's already a bit slow.
> In any case, the time to make the decision is NOW, because= this will
> need time for us to be sure any serious bugs are fixed b= efore Emacs
> 25.1 is released.

Then perhaps= we should enable it in all 32-bit platforms and just wait for the fallout.= We can always fall back to the current default if things don't look go= od.

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