From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [h-e-w] bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:30:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <84boromyob.fsf@tum.de> <84ipknew07.fsf@tum.de> <87ipjzs512.fsf@gnus.org> <87wr8e8o58.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87ipjy6z0j.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83zkdaz26s.fsf@gnu.org> <8739b26ume.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83ty3iywh3.fsf@gnu.org> <87fwf13zly.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327678319 25146 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2012 15:31:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:31:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 27 16:31:53 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RqnmK-0007W4-SA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:31:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52857 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqnmJ-0002K1-UI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:31:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42429) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqnm9-0002Ia-VT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:31:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqnm0-0005L0-Dh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:31:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:45392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqnm0-0005Kq-7e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:31:32 -0500 Original-Received: by dake40 with SMTP id e40so1641645dak.0 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:31:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GZTTUG/KSJJg9lf0dbnB8RkaReB3uYzPQYt5w5N07F8=; b=JX49BGKP3+hxlvrb+/4USDtf7kIJnhOmekB9z3A+WmiAh6UHaeECsv2CT9l1cknxAR uh62U5i5l/rnp4sbxnk3FKT4+PRdy11o3UwnoFbKoZi3mBliBIEU080f7x3nJSQaPCjs 99FVleKownvkOTLm7PN86i/hx7VNp5t1hL04Q= Original-Received: by 10.68.226.135 with SMTP id rs7mr15598043pbc.9.1327678290212; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:31:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.143.37.9 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:30:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87fwf13zly.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147982 Archived-At: 2012/1/27 Ted Zlatanov : > Someone has to do the work.=C2=A0I offered to do it, setting up a BuildBo= t > so I don't have to do it manually every time. =C2=A0I will obviously make= it > run the tests and if it fails, it will not deliver the DLLs. =C2=A0Do you > have a better proposal (e.g. you want to be in charge of the builds or > you know volunteers who want to do it)? =C2=A0I'm certainly not looking f= or > more work for myself, but it seems no one else wants to automate this. "Someone has to do the work" and "be[ing] in charge of the builds" sort of implies that there's that weird *obligation* to provide the binaries. If there *is* in fact any obligation, it is certainly unrelated to Emacs. You seem to think that those who oppose distributing the binaries do so because of the burden of building them. At least in my case, the opposition is philosophical/political, and utterly unrelated with who wil bear the work of producing binaries. > The fact that the GnuTLS developers don't support W32 well is partly due > to the lack of binary builds for that platform. I think things will > improve as up-to-date DLLs become available. If you can set a bot to build the DLLs, the GnuTLS project surely could, too. And it would be *their* binaries. You can't get more official than that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma