From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 1d4862e: Fix English grammar in some doc strings and comments Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 22:51:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <14407.1572888070@quatro> <8736f3js95.fsf@fastmail.fm> <871runxqjq.fsf@gmx.net> <87eeyj8nqr.fsf@gnus.org> <9ccae76c-07a2-1739-d4b0-5c13164145d3@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007ac20b0596dcc974" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="140412"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Emacs Development To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 08 22:52:21 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iTCB2-000aOO-JR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:52:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60818 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTCB1-0005vL-01 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 16:52:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTCAU-0005rs-Cm for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 16:51:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTCAS-0005DQ-Ca for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 16:51:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qt1-x832.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::832]:40057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTCAQ-0005Cc-EF for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 16:51:43 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qt1-x832.google.com with SMTP id o49so8138555qta.7 for ; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:51:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oCSyx1AK2ZUypTLn/Nwwz2HwNEWdygPbyLxtydg6skc=; b=IvJnwXNjp+Sora8/QOUW+0PKxpcb/XwEBnqy1rMD6DDw9cqEpWIs+IPZ6SsW33q6rW 2+VOKH+NK6+dG1KKOAzuTHRZvlIXxpn9ak9qfsm3nEYrOlJiis1ZCUzBl8RU1K+GS08C HleGyts0Efit9ia3rgPXtfE4Ryar3e29AGhMkz/FZN6MZHgOYnP96tSiEckmE0wQ0CZv kkZ6LSIRxOuyh+S2nt9fEz4RSRTw1jJIQ4GEvubyG9owDypkipKq5oURAhlbE8Byvw1j aW8BKxqMnXKzr/PGI94GDLdUTbA3jP+0lU7aCbzAV6HeKlXEVTfLA1/GeyHUJpdHvbf9 Hvpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oCSyx1AK2ZUypTLn/Nwwz2HwNEWdygPbyLxtydg6skc=; b=sTaRb5+mnC7Zcxa+ihkY/X2EHcTFUIU6mLDm9eeVLFKK+VFoVrJQF+gvLu5H/S5ue8 z6IM2M70oTnft1idMSuJPaFnepGQyf5eACCsapp1O0pyxn4gjEs5wcB8rsmCEYwpfkGa axsozqGUzf63zPpnKRj8uCy/vY/rEy7wFBodDqgEG/h1YCgGgS4UNYVS1UI7JhbFxFsG 3x+t0H6K2L4bGLgskAQT+kwh9g25HhDMJ7Oif+pQ3Sx6Zx4PAZdUmQgvBl4i71HDrt5F RSe5N2VZxPRHHwCEWXay9RdOwrHt2h1OJiSMtISgI/3PuA0V8MJ8knuOxiPLNWuMFlR0 zkNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVhDDIEkmGs6j9DX4ziJ5aCmR/mTIirO/LkIhm5z1Lzp35UnBxn gCA7/7OUuasI9+O5QENnTkv88tlU9UWvtDHo2/w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw3QY9GZzTj+/QFJH3JvJUHKqqrcAQoEsIyJcxn3p0a6gwEMf/8nL30PDMGlXnd6PoYWLK7so4DBqE0i6+YMds= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:7b9a:: with SMTP id p26mr13097425qtu.287.1573249900788; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:51:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::832 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242012 Archived-At: --0000000000007ac20b0596dcc974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:31 PM Paul Eggert wrote: > I'm not aware of any such cases. To my ear, the revised text in the example you > gave is just as natural-sounding as the original. I'm not a native English speaker, but some have chimed in already about the naturalness of some of these changes. > I'm willing to put up with these less-important changes, if consistent use of > the style helps to fix confusion elsewhere (as that patch did). Yes, that's obviously your position in this discussion. I think the patch introduced some good changes, and others that didn't do anything to improve the docs and were just personal preferences. That's why I started this thread asking why (some of) these changes were "grammar fixes". They weren't. Not my opinion: the experts' opinion. --0000000000007ac20b0596dcc974 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:31 PM Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:

&g= t; I'm not aware of any such cases. To my ear, the revised text in the = example you
> gave is just as natural-sounding as the original.
I'm not a native English speaker, but some have chimed in already abo= ut the naturalness of some of these changes.

> I'm willing to= put up with these less-important changes, if consistent use of
> the= style helps to fix confusion elsewhere (as that patch did).

Yes, th= at's obviously your position in this discussion. I think the patch intr= oduced some good changes, and others that didn't do anything to improve= the docs and were just personal preferences.=C2=A0

That's why I= started this thread asking why (some of) these changes were "grammar = fixes". They weren't. Not my opinion: the experts' opinion.
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