From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Converted git repository available for review Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395432076 14695 80.91.229.3 (21 Mar 2014 20:01:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:01:16 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 21 21:01:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WR5d8-0003yZ-2L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:01:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54491 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WR5d7-0007Pm-NZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:01:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40523) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WR5d0-0007PD-KB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WR5cv-0003fY-F5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:57283 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WR5cv-0003fD-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:01:13 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 236863805FB; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." 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Thus the fear and the hate; thus the torture chamber, the iron stake, the gallows, the labor camp, the psychiatric ward. -- Edward Abbey From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:00:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395439256 3901 80.91.229.3 (21 Mar 2014 22:00:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. 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Raymond's message of "Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170740 Archived-At: > Clone from git@gitorious.org:emacs-transition/review1.git > Of course this may be missing very some recent commits. On whatever > conversion day gets scheduled I'll do a rebuild, using the lift > script and other conversion machinery that can be found at: I haven't looked at the repository yet, but to help plan for the switch, I think the switch should happen basically when we release 24.4 (I'd rather not convert the release branch while the release is still in preparation, and since we regularly merge from the release branch to the trunk, that also means that conversion of trunk will have to wait). Stefan From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:06:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395439654 5107 80.91.229.3 (21 Mar 2014 22:07:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: "Eric S. 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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170741 Archived-At: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Clone from git@gitorious.org:emacs-transition/review1.git git://gitorious.org/emacs-transition/review1.git The one you gave requires authentication. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:12:59 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140321221259.GB28193@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395439982 6296 80.91.229.3 (21 Mar 2014 22:13:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 21 23:13:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WR7ge-0000CA-67 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:13:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54845 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WR7gd-0006CE-Mk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WR7gW-0006Bx-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:13:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WR7gS-0005Cx-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:13:04 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:57725 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WR7gS-0005AF-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 49A943805FB; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." 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Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:00:39 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010900070709070604080606" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395450062 2518 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 01:01:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:01:02 +0000 (UTC) To: "Eric S. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170746 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010900070709070604080606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks. I compared the latest revision (d245cfa) in the converted git repository's master to the corresponding revision (116808) in the bzr trunk, and found some discrepancies (see attached). They fall into two major categories. 1. The git version is missing some changes to .gitignore files. For example, we removed the arch-tag lines a while ago, but the git version has resurrected them. I expect the conversion machinery needs to be tweaked to handle .gitignore files correctly. 2. The git version has rewritten 100 ChangeLog lines, replacing strings like "revno 108687" with strings like "2012-06-22T21:17:42Z!eggert@cs.ucla.edu" using the principles you discussed earlier. In many cases the ChangeLog lines have gotten too long. I propose converting them to the new form and fixing resulting line-length problems in the bzr trunk, now, so that the automated conversion process has nothing to do in this area. 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Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:00:17 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395457250 19377 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 03:00:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 04:01:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCBA-0001vq-9O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:01:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55521 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCB9-0003F8-T0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:00:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCB3-00033c-Jc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:00:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCAz-0006f2-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:00:53 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:58551 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCAy-0006eq-VS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:00:49 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CAD973805FB; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170756 Archived-At: Paul Eggert : > Thanks. I compared the latest revision (d245cfa) in the converted > git repository's master to the corresponding revision (116808) in > the bzr trunk, and found some discrepancies (see attached). They > fall into two major categories. > > 1. The git version is missing some changes to .gitignore files. > For example, we removed the arch-tag lines a while ago, but the git > version has resurrected them. I expect the conversion machinery > needs to be tweaked to handle .gitignore files correctly. Take a look at the relevant section of the lift script. What I've done is treat the Bazaar ignore files as authoritative for those revisions during which Bazaar was in use, ignoring .gitignores during that period. The other major possibility would be to simply remove .bzrignores where .gitignore files exist. I don't care. Either is doable; somebody make a policy choice, please? > 2. The git version has rewritten 100 ChangeLog lines, replacing > strings like "revno 108687" with strings like > "2012-06-22T21:17:42Z!eggert@cs.ucla.edu" using the principles you > discussed earlier. In many cases the ChangeLog lines have gotten > too long. I propose converting them to the new form and fixing > resulting line-length problems in the bzr trunk, now, so that the > automated conversion process has nothing to do in this area. I'll > volunteer to do this by hand, as it hardly seems worth automating. Here's I could do instead: select commit comments and ChangeLog revisions with overlong lines, mailboxize them, and craft some filter commands to fix up the line breaks. That would fix up the history for maximumm readability. But how much do we care about fewer than 108 overlong lines, really? I'm not even sure your small effort would be really justified, let alone my larger one. -- Eric S. Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:37:33 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395459467 24296 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 03:37:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 04:37:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCks-0004Lk-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:37:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55580 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCkr-0005GA-Pz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:37:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCkh-0005Fo-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:37:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCka-0001QM-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:33657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCkZ-0001PM-Qw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:37:36 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777BC39E8013; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZJt9f37wNmIi; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-108-0-233-62.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.0.233.62]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCB7639E8008; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:37:33 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170757 Archived-At: Eric S. Raymond wrote: > What I've > done is treat the Bazaar ignore files as authoritative for those > revisions during which Bazaar was in use, ignoring .gitignores during > that period. The other major possibility would be to simply remove > .bzrignores where .gitignore files exist. Sorry, I'm not really following all that, as I haven't read the lift script. Still, it puzzles me that the result is a .gitignore that has the wrong data in it, in the sense that it has an arch tag, something that is clearly wrong since we went through and removed those. If we're generating .gitignore files from .bzrignore files, and if the .bzrignore file just before the bzr-to-git transition lacks an arch tag, why would the .gitignore file after the transition have it? And if we're using some other process to generate the .gitignore file, then how did it manage to keep the arch tags even though we removed them? How about if we fix the .bzrignore and .gitignore files to agree now, by hand, so that this part of the bzr-to-git transition is a no-op? > But how much do we care about fewer than 108 overlong lines, really? > I'm not even sure your small effort would be really justified, let > alone my larger one. I know some people care about readable ChangeLog entries. We edit them even years after they were written to fix typos, for example. It's worth the small effort, though not the larger one. I wrote earlier that these changes could be made to the bzr trunk now, but since they're so small and niggling we might as well make them to the emacs-24 branch. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:42:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395459784 24964 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 03:43:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eric Raymond , Emacs developers To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 04:43:11 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCpz-0002Mx-KH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:43:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55587 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCpz-0008TO-A2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:43:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41491) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCpv-0008T1-Qr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:43:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCpu-0003Tp-V7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:43:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22c]:55789) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCpu-0003Tk-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 200so8583607ykr.3 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:43:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=FIEfrHH2iZDLV8u11s6PjxwrS0JgEF9ww/XwYiCy6mE=; b=Kao2UdznlkhNVY/34GcwJE2HZPL9ZxtS+WUVSJ5QJg27cvnD8LB2VSoX7A13mZVqri b8nIvEX9lWlOgqKhkn/mfooS7dHREkoVoT9VjnTGuLRtk7BA0Ctcxl6gUIW15VwQJA95 Sg03pRn8SMhtxlkrIiGUk407R88wq0Al5WZm+LymShLc6M1D+e3K87karLPRioHFTvaI PQw45JRLefkqZAwR/8HaG969cL4eAj4nqEWWGdHPK7YxCKifVSDsUITUJ1Aw+K7T1qo7 OpYCXXWa24CkKgLuPb8Wik90K36ew64ap8TRjnmgQuQZ3Ccw3hIR94DlDrODotKr52nS X2OQ== X-Received: by 10.236.123.38 with SMTP id u26mr176976yhh.93.1395459786199; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.170.163.3 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:42:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170759 Archived-At: On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Paul Eggert wrote: > I know some people care about readable ChangeLog entries. We edit them even > years after they were written to fix typos, for example. You don't say! From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:29:21 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140322042921.GA29817@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395462594 31284 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 04:29:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 05:30:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRDZM-0000Nm-84 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:30:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55668 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRDZL-0008AJ-Rv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47669) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRDZE-00082x-VN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:30:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRDZA-0001VB-KR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:29:56 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:58933 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRDZA-0001V5-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B31CB3805FB; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170760 Archived-At: Paul Eggert : > Eric S. Raymond wrote: > >What I've > >done is treat the Bazaar ignore files as authoritative for those > >revisions during which Bazaar was in use, ignoring .gitignores during > >that period. The other major possibility would be to simply remove > >.bzrignores where .gitignore files exist. > > Sorry, I'm not really following all that, as I haven't read the lift > script. Still, it puzzles me that the result is a .gitignore that > has the wrong data in it, in the sense that it has an arch tag, > something that is clearly wrong since we went through and removed > those. If we're generating .gitignore files from .bzrignore files, > and if the .bzrignore file just before the bzr-to-git transition > lacks an arch tag, why would the .gitignore file after the > transition have it? And if we're using some other process to > generate the .gitignore file, then how did it manage to keep the > arch tags even though we removed them? I don't know. Maybe we can figure it out together. Let me explain in detail what is currently happening and why. First, why: the conversion goal is to make the entire history convenient for git browsing - that is, as though git had neen in use all along. For our purposes, the history has two sections: pre-bzr and post-bzr. In the pre-bzr section it is pretty clear what to do, because .cvsignore files are upward-compatible to .gitignores. So we just rename them. Policy for the post-bzr-changeover section is a little trickier. There are three kinds of relevant files in that section; leftover .cvsignores (presumably never modified afther the switch to bzr), .bzrignore files, and .gitignore files. Simply discarding the .cvsignore revisions after that point makes sense. The information in them is stale. Neither bzr nor git uses them. They're just clutter. It's also clear enough what to do when a revision has .bzrignres but no .gitignores - syntax-translate the .bzrignores (which is trivial) and rename them. The issue is what to do when a revision has both .bzrignores and .gitignores. The pfresent policy is to treat each .bzrignore with a matching.gitignore as authoritative; that is, the .bzrignore is translated and overwites the .gitignore. The arch tag you're seeing must have been removed in .gitigores but not in .bzrignores. Other than the (trivial) bar-to-git syntax change I'm not messing with the data or trying to do anything clever. # # IGNORE FILES # # Remove every .cvsignore not older than when .gitignores were # first added. Then rename all remaining (older) .cvsignores to # corresponding .gitignore paths; the syntax is upward-compatible. # The date marks the introduction of .gitignore files. # <2009-02-03T23:32:38Z>..$ expunge /\.cvsignore$/ path (.*)/\.cvsignore$ rename \1/.gitignore # # Then treat .bzrignore files as authoritative, after changing leading # "./" to "/". (The only other syntax incompatibility is "RE:", which # the Emacs repository never uses.) The date marks the introduction of # .bzrignore files. # <2009-12-27T21:38:14Z>..$ expunge /\.gitignore$/ =B & [/\.bzrignore$/] filter --regex :^\./:/: path (.*)/\.bzrignore$ rename \1/.gitignore > How about if we fix the .bzrignore and .gitignore files to agree > now, by hand, so that this part of the bzr-to-git transition is a > no-op? That might make sense after 24.4 -- Eric S. Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395463343 389 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 04:42:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: "Eric S. 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Raymond" , Emacs developers To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 08:33:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGR3-00050I-EI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 08:33:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55980 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGR2-0006a3-Sp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:33:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38830) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGQr-0006Zw-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGQk-0005dD-JG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:33:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:38790) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGQk-00052p-9F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:33:22 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C16970979; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:32:14 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4359A1A28DC; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:32:14 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." 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No time to be more detailed, HTH Steve From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:35:25 +0200 Message-ID: <83zjki4req.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395473716 12992 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 07:35:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 08:35:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGSg-0006fB-VE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 08:35:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55987 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGSg-0007qQ-IP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:35:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39449) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGSY-0007e7-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGSS-0006Lz-Po for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:35:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:38120) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRGSS-0006LT-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N2T00O00TUDDN00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:33:44 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N2T00KOMUC7VE40@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:33:44 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." 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Because it would make sense to pack the upstream instead? -- David Kastrup From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:02:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395475348 28353 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 08:02:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 08:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. 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My vaseline is RUNNING... In-Reply-To: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-Received-From: 212.18.0.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170772 Archived-At: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) writes: > git@gitorious.org:emacs-transition/emacs-transition.git What about the other branches? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:12:17 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140322091216.GA31376@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395479571 3188 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 09:12:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 10:13:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHzB-0006mt-DT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:13:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56192 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHzA-0007zP-Sb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHz3-0007yT-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:12:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHyy-0006wB-Oh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:12:53 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:60177 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHyy-0006w3-Ka for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:12:48 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A0C183805FB; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170775 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero : > > Clone from git@gitorious.org:emacs-transition/review1.git > > After cloning, the repo's size is 12,26 GiB. > > The Bazaar shared repo uses 453 MiB. > > Why the difference? > > J Yikes. Rebuild from a stream file commonly produces large reposories before git repack. This is extreme. The repack operation obviously didn't work very well. I'll try some different options. -- Eric S. Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:20:01 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395480035 7508 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 09:20:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 10:20:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRI6f-0006Nz-B8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:20:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRI6e-0004gT-SK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:20:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40839) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRI6W-0004c1-OO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:20:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRI6S-0001OE-9x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:20:36 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:60213 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRI6R-0001O5-UY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:20:32 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5532B3805FB; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170778 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab : > > git@gitorious.org:emacs-transition/emacs-transition.git > > What about the other branches? That's the conversion machiery. You want this: git@gitorious.org:emacs-transition/review1.git for which the branch list is concurrency emacs-23 emacs-24 gtk-tabs * master old-branches/EMACS_21_1_RC old-branches/EMACS_22_BASE old-branches/EMACS_23_1_RC old-branches/NewVC-fileset old-branches/branch-5_8 old-branches/cedet-branch old-branches/emacs-unicode old-branches/emacs-unicode-2 old-branches/font-backend old-branches/gerd_defvaralias old-branches/gnus-5_10-branch old-branches/imagemagick old-branches/lexbind old-branches/lexbind-new old-branches/multi-tty old-branches/pending old-branches/profiler old-branches/python old-branches/rmail-mbox-branch old-branches/unicode-xft old-branches/window-pub other-branches/Boehm-GC other-branches/Boehm-versions other-branches/DAVELOVE other-branches/FLYSPELL other-branches/ILYA other-branches/VENDOR other-branches/XFT_JHD_BRANCH other-branches/custom_themes other-branches/fx-branch other-branches/gerd_0001 other-branches/gerd_big other-branches/gerd_dbe other-branches/gerd_int other-branches/glibc-2_0_x other-branches/miles-orphaned-changes other-branches/old-bidi other-branches/old-concurrency other-branches/patches_21_0 other-branches/test2 other-branches/thomas-posix1996 other-branches/ttn-vms-21-2-stash other-branches/ttn-vms-21-3-stash pending trunk x-tabs xwidget Some of those branches should probably be garbage-collected. -- Eric S. Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:40:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395481270 19165 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 09:41:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , Emacs developers To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 10:41:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQY-00025x-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:41:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56270 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQY-0001OG-8m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47937) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQP-0001Hw-0u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQI-0000y2-Rj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:45217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQI-0000vX-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3frcL25hQvz3hhyN; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:40:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3frcL25Xjqzbbmx; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:40:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iBaQQdHTVMQr; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:40:58 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: qN/VwrDJ0WQ5Q1YdAy+KpJCs5bALaOrjgB8Wq7fyr9A= Original-Received: from linux.local (ppp-46-244-228-124.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.228.124]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:40:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id E5D711E5A37; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:40:54 +0100 (CET) X-Yow: How's the wife? Is she at home enjoying capitalism? In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:45 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-Received-From: 212.18.0.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170780 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: >> Clone from git@gitorious.org:emacs-transition/review1.git > > After cloning, the repo's size is 12,26 GiB. git gc --aggressive shrinks it to 192MB, but takes more than one hour of cpu time. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395481471 20816 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 09:44:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 10:44:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRITo-0005R9-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56288 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRITo-00030O-0Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:44:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49870) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRITg-0002zO-G3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:44:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRITa-0002i1-K2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:44:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:57400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRITa-0002hw-DS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:44:26 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3frcQ16X7cz3hhyN; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3frcQ16Pj7zbblK; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ACPnQtRu4VgD; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:24 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: 0cJGnJ8Rzu4TVZ0+U2QRgJdUEHdthSvf8cHeb1C9lD0= Original-Received: from linux.local (ppp-46-244-228-124.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.228.124]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A5E6E1E5A41; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:19 +0100 (CET) X-Yow: Now my EMOTIONAL RESOURCES are heavily committed to 23% of the SMELTING and REFINING industry of the state of NEVADA!! In-Reply-To: <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:20:01 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-Received-From: 212.18.0.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170781 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > git@gitorious.org:emacs-transition/review1.git That's what I meant, of course. > for which the branch list is $ git ls-remote >From git://gitorious.org/emacs-transition/review1 d245cfa59ae766ccdc819aa40ce8eb1553d0ea33 HEAD d245cfa59ae766ccdc819aa40ce8eb1553d0ea33 refs/heads/master (Did you mean "git push --mirror"?) Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:03:31 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395486248 2732 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 11:04:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 12:04:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRJio-0002eR-79 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:04:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56453 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRJin-0004pK-Rd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:04:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRJih-0004pB-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:04:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRJic-0002TT-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:33270 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRJic-0002TI-Ei for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 91A8C3805FB; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." 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Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:47:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322091216.GA31376@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395488900 28891 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 11:48:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Eric Raymond Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 12:48:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKPd-00068m-Lz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:48:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56567 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKPd-0006Gr-CW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35709) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKPZ-0006Gf-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:48:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKPY-0001xi-RC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:48:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::229]:50775) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKPY-0001xV-Na for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:48:24 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 142so9309870ykq.0 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:48:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=WUJqi4+sUB06JFqg7EvBUrU7B1zRl4wwrYagknkxhmA=; b=oHG2HMdXszNvdC8pejJu3CdagP4sJCu3q/zvn0GBZbXaBuyvhnTjwHjpm99M5Djerg IFUZ7cF1IQV6A6ZA20sXmfz0EXAvhU4Uza+JQW+kIMgDhffmQ2dq3HI0wBllRWck4Pfw LeahfJVbH2RC2qn1ATPQ7ee1cc/Af04jwaCVgpcSySz7a3kCGk2nYr1/8a4Mjl9UQ+q5 fAvTrCRkdpsXJFm1UGOiH11xS0jKOaSakNEVRS4yw+WYwUdq0US971E1hK4YskWDPMT5 ev2TBkA9XzvB7+fEVua+Mobc6nXURZydKksvAGjapf9I+OS+iDQt4Oe3yRhUzHmoev7I V29A== X-Received: by 10.236.77.165 with SMTP id d25mr543368yhe.119.1395488904214; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.170.163.3 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:47:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140322091216.GA31376@thyrsus.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170787 Archived-At: On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Yikes. Rebuild from a stream file commonly produces large reposories before > git repack. This is extreme. Well, yes. With a 10 Mb ASDL line, cloning it has taken a few hours (for values of few > 4 or 5). J From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:48:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <83zjki4req.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395488973 29502 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 11:49:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eric Raymond , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 12:49:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKQp-0007M3-I3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:49:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56571 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKQp-0006hj-2u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:49:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36237) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKQl-0006he-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:49:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKQk-0002JZ-Og for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:49:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yh0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c01::235]:38955) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRKQj-0002J9-5V; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:49:37 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yh0-f53.google.com with SMTP id v1so3475219yhn.40 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:49:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=FCgjIbpriUWVp7qo3bOrYD2GOmx2azebmBEfLBAqaiQ=; b=OQf2rlm9RDUK95t14iajBIofMDoq5WHu2wghGN+hkS4vgu06C6gc7FUouPVi1kuohV 09n8r9RDpxMnAYjQveyuHvw7J4LzGkt1zNEAIg6MxPJGbogaMy6sUYLfUX/Hy0EL1IRi UKMCYFv0nHShSTZiWCZIlC7j1IZyCePG+3HkYL4h1oOmwSDikMMT7lU07x8hLa3dAvHH ItJp3jBLeLDM+mw1QWJG4IqFO/Wbc73nW1jSiR5ZztqrhVV9txzhQkH23JLrtzybBsl/ KG4pLNTTd/uITVKHp+CyAPEqiQvGNdjFzUjzK3VlVBsCM9Jy91xj/6bZif+A+1jbHTmE 1ICA== X-Received: by 10.236.75.74 with SMTP id y50mr74829157yhd.27.1395488976632; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.170.163.3 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:48:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83zjki4req.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c01::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170788 Archived-At: On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > You need to repack the repo, see > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-01/msg00591.html Yes, I remember that thread. But it makes sense to repack it upstream, doesn't it? Because if every developer has to download 12 GiB, that seems... suboptimal. J From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:56:59 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <532DA4BB.9070301@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322042921.GA29817@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395500232 14945 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 14:57:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 15:57:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRNMM-0005B5-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 15:57:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57249 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRNMM-0001Zb-Ic for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:57:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37618) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRNMC-0001ZS-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:57:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRNM5-00008Y-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:57:08 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:51680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRNM4-00008U-Sg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F365739E8017; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:56:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8nMyNBXVHp1m; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-108-0-233-62.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.0.233.62]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A46E39E8012; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:56:59 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <20140322042921.GA29817@thyrsus.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170801 Archived-At: Eric S. Raymond wrote: > The arch tag you're seeing must have been removed in .gitigores but not > in .bzrignores. Other than the (trivial) bar-to-git syntax change > I'm not messing with the data or trying to do anything clever. There are no arch tags in the trunk now, in either .gitignore or .bzrignore files. So something must have gone wrong in the lift. > The issue is what to do when a revision has both .bzrignores and > .gitignores. The pfresent policy is to treat each .bzrignore with > a matching.gitignore as authoritative; that is, the .bzrignore > is translated and overwites the .gitignore. The bzr trunk has just one .bzrignore, at the root; it also has one .gitignore at the root and 12 other .gitignore files scattered all over the place. (I don't know why.) From what you say, the git review1 should have the same pattern of files, with the old root .gitignore replaced by the translated .bzrignore (though I don't know why we should keep the .bzrignore -- shouldn't it be removed?). However, the git review1 has 38 .gitignore files (counting the one at the root). Where did they come from? Plus, the git review1 is missing some .gitignore files that are in the trunk, namely lisp/cedet/.gitignore, lisp/leim/.gitignore, lisp/leim/quail/.gitignore. Why is that happening? Perhaps rather than delve into this too much, how about a different idea. Currently people are using both bzr and git to access Emacs repositories, so they've tuned the .bzrignore and .gitignore files to match what they want from the different repository backends. So why not leave these files alone? When we switch from bzr+git to just git, we can remove the .bzrignore file. This would be simpler than rewriting history, would be easier for everybody to understand, and would be less likely to go wrong. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:47:34 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140322184734.GA2704@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322042921.GA29817@thyrsus.com> <532DA4BB.9070301@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395514060 30810 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 18:47:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 19:47:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRQxP-0007z8-I9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 19:47:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57881 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRQxP-0008Po-2K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:47:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRQxI-0008PZ-1r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:47:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRQxD-0002hS-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:35138 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRQxD-0002gy-M5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 11757380677; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <532DA4BB.9070301@cs.ucla.edu> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170810 Archived-At: Paul Eggert : > Perhaps rather than delve into this too much, how about a different > idea. Currently people are using both bzr and git to access Emacs > repositories, so they've tuned the .bzrignore and .gitignore files > to match what they want from the different repository backends. So > why not leave these files alone? When we switch from bzr+git to > just git, we can remove the .bzrignore file. This would be simpler > than rewriting history, would be easier for everybody to understand, > and would be less likely to go wrong. Easy enough to do, but with one possible cost. We might not get a happy resuly for revisions that have *only* .bzrignore files, that is before .gitignire files were added. -- Eric S. Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Richard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: .gitignore and .bzrignore files. Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:24:00 +0100 Message-ID: <8738i8ar0v.fsf_-_@yahoo.fr> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322042921.GA29817@thyrsus.com> <532DA4BB.9070301@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322184734.GA2704@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395653041 11334 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2014 09:24:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 09:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric S. Raymond" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 10:24:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WS170-0000rq-8H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:24:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35157 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS16z-0003hu-J0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 05:24:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40788) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS16s-0003hm-8s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 05:24:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS16m-0002vb-R0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 05:23:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be ([164.15.128.112]:60647) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS16m-0002ux-Kj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 05:23:52 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqAEAJD4L1OkD4Xx/2dsb2JhbABZhx+/aYEsdIImAQEEIwRSEAgDGgImAgIQBEkTh2QBFKthUZldAYdcF4Ephj6GYDMHgm+BSQSYSoY1i3yDLjw Original-Received: from mathsrv4.ulb.ac.be (HELO geodiff-mac3) ([164.15.133.241]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2014 10:23:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20140322184734.GA2704@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:47:34 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 164.15.128.112 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170905 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > Paul Eggert : >> Perhaps rather than delve into this too much, how about a different >> idea. Currently people are using both bzr and git to access Emacs >> repositories, so they've tuned the .bzrignore and .gitignore files >> to match what they want from the different repository backends. So >> why not leave these files alone? When we switch from bzr+git to >> just git, we can remove the .bzrignore file. This would be simpler >> than rewriting history, would be easier for everybody to understand, >> and would be less likely to go wrong. > > Easy enough to do, but with one possible cost. We might not get a happy= =20 > resuly for revisions that have *only* .bzrignore files, that is before > .gitignire files were added. I have one question : what goes in those ignore files=C2=A0? I've heard some people want to ignore files created during compilation, while some other don't because they compile off tree and want to know if files get added in the tree. Related to this, is the fact that bzr ignores some files automatically: $ bzr ignore --default-rules *.a *.o *.py[co] *.so *.sw[nop] *~ .#* [#]*# __pycache__ bzr-orphans while git does not AFAIK (except those files/directories named '.git'.) Should the .bzr->.git transition automatically add these to the .gitignore file ? --=20 Nico. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: .gitignore and .bzrignore files. Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:38:29 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140324103829.GB22737@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322042921.GA29817@thyrsus.com> <532DA4BB.9070301@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322184734.GA2704@thyrsus.com> <8738i8ar0v.fsf_-_@yahoo.fr> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395657512 31910 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2014 10:38:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nicolas Richard Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 11:38:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WS2HB-0004sN-Vl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:38:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35556 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS2HB-00031S-8b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:38:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56241) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS2H4-00031K-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:38:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS2H0-0002Kj-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:38:34 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:45229 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS2H0-0002Kf-BR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:38:30 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A7E993807F4; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8738i8ar0v.fsf_-_@yahoo.fr> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170906 Archived-At: Nicolas Richard : > I have one question : what goes in those ignore files=A0? I've heard so= me > people want to ignore files created during compilation, while some othe= r > don't because they compile off tree and want to know if files get added > in the tree. I don't see how not excluding (for example) .o files would help with this= . > Related to this, is the fact that bzr ignores some files automatically: > $ bzr ignore --default-rules > *.a > *.o > *.py[co] > *.so > *.sw[nop] > *~ > .#* > [#]*# > __pycache__ > bzr-orphans Thank you, that is information I did not have. > Should the .bzr->.git transition automatically add these to the > .gitignore file ? When the .gitignore is directly translated from a .bzrignore, these should be prepended in order to correctly emulate the behavior of the .bzrignore file. Paul Eggert is proposing that we not do this at all and simply drop the .bzrignore files from the history, trusting the .gitignore files already in place to pick up the slack. Shortly I will post to the list about the complications implied by variou= s ways of handling ignore files. Determining the right thing is not at all simple. --=20 Eric S. Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: .gitignore and .bzrignore files. Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:53:47 +0900 Message-ID: <87pplbrewk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322042921.GA29817@thyrsus.com> <532DA4BB.9070301@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322184734.GA2704@thyrsus.com> <8738i8ar0v.fsf_-_@yahoo.fr> <20140324103829.GB22737@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395662038 21898 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2014 11:53:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Nicolas Richard , Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 12:54:06 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WS3S9-0000Rb-H6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:54:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35830 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS3S8-0004HK-RX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:54:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42693) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS3S1-0004Dt-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS3Rv-0000kF-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:53:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:55480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS3Ru-0000jt-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999B097069B; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:53:47 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 85E681A28DC; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:53:47 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <20140324103829.GB22737@thyrsus.com> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170907 Archived-At: Eric S. Raymond writes: > Nicolas Richard : > > I have one question : what goes in those ignore files=C2=A0? I've > > heard some people want to ignore files created during > > compilation, while some other don't because they compile off tree > > and want to know if files get added in the tree. This is a tough question. However, all of the VCSes I know of provide both cascading ignores (so that you can ignore the backup and lock files your editor produces in a personal .ignore, and ignore the .o produced by a C compiler in a C project and the .pyc files produced by Python), and some way to clean up and list files that are ignored as well as unregistered files that aren't ignored. > Shortly I will post to the list about the complications implied by > various ways of handling ignore files. Determining the right thing > is not at all simple. I'd say do what's simplest. I don't see why one can't live with a pretty coarse approximation for a while. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Richard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: .gitignore and .bzrignore files. 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Raymond's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:38:29 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 164.15.128.112 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170912 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > Nicolas Richard : >> I have one question : what goes in those ignore files=C2=A0? I've heard = some >> people want to ignore files created during compilation, while some other >> don't because they compile off tree and want to know if files get added >> in the tree. > > I don't see how not excluding (for example) .o files would help with this. When you compile off tree and an .o file is added in the tree, it's a problem that should be detected. Ignoring those files would only hide the problem. Note that I don't in fact do that, I was just reporting on what I have heard/read elsewhere. --=20 Nico. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:33:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395700485 25174 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2014 22:34:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric S. 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Raymond's message of "Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:03:31 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2014 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 13 X-Hashcash: 1:30:140324:esr@thyrsus.com::kNL7dZBNEILIacxm:0HWrjB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 198.147.23.85 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170936 Archived-At: >>>>> "ESR" == Eric S Raymond writes: ESR> Andreas Schwab : >> (Did you mean "git push --mirror"?) ESR> Ooops. Running that now. It may take a while. A git gc --aggressive shrinks the repo from 12G to 200M; it would be welcome to do that before pushing to gitorious. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:39:28 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140324223928.GA29763@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395700805 26164 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2014 22:40:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: James Cloos Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 23:40:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDXP-0007oo-LW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:40:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38663 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDXO-0000eg-Vr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35841) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDXH-0000Pi-L3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDXD-000886-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:40:03 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:49547 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDXD-00087y-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:39:59 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A93638083E; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." 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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:44:23 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Message-ID: <877g7jb4jc.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322042921.GA29817@thyrsus.com> <532DA4BB.9070301@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322184734.GA2704@thyrsus.com> <8738i8ar0v.fsf_-_@yahoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395701083 26877 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2014 22:44:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:44:43 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 23:44:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDbw-0005AM-NW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:44:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38683 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDbw-0004mw-C0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:44:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36859) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDbn-0004fH-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:44:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDbg-0001C1-SG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:44:42 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:41277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDbg-0001Br-JJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:44:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSDbe-0004k5-Pi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:44:34 +0100 Original-Received: from pd9eb025a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.2.90]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:44:34 +0100 Original-Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb025a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:44:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb025a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dBgHyTp07NYaEwkAx1BWlUCL33g= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170938 Archived-At: Nicolas Richard writes: > I have one question : what goes in those ignore files ? I've heard some > people want to ignore files created during compilation, while some other > don't because they compile off tree and want to know if files get added > in the tree. Since it's close to impossible to cater to both in-tree and out-of-tree builds, you'll either end up with no .gitignore files in the repo at all or adding them and having those files ignored. Given that git clean -xn will show you even those files that you ignore (and other VCS have their own variant of the same), it may be slightly easier to just keep the .gitignore files in the tree. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Waldorf MIDI Implementation & additional documentation: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfDocs From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:57:21 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? 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X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170952 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > James Cloos : >> A git gc --aggressive shrinks the repo from 12G to 200M; it would be >> welcome to do that before pushing to gitorious. > > I'll do that on the next iteration. Sure that it will have an effect at all then? All the references will already be there. -- David Kastrup From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 06:54:36 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140325105436.GA468@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> <20140324223928.GA29763@thyrsus.com> <87fvm6ww0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395745393 28996 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2014 11:03:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 12:03:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSP8d-0007Tj-72 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:03:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40920 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSP8c-00053S-QK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:03:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52150) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSP8V-00051c-Gl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:03:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSP8R-00085d-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:52299 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSP8N-00083B-7S; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ABE1E38083E; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 06:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87fvm6ww0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170956 Archived-At: David Kastrup : > "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > > > James Cloos : > >> A git gc --aggressive shrinks the repo from 12G to 200M; it would be > >> welcome to do that before pushing to gitorious. > > > > I'll do that on the next iteration. > > Sure that it will have an effect at all then? All the references will > already be there. gc does some repacking and compression, not just garbage collection per se. -- Eric S. Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:04:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87r45qv8rt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> <20140324223928.GA29763@thyrsus.com> <87fvm6ww0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140325105436.GA468@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395745503 30056 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2014 11:05:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric S. Raymond" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 12:05:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPAM-0000xO-BU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:05:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40939 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPAL-0006vI-Ti for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:05:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPAI-0006rD-In for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:05:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPAF-00009g-IK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPAF-00009Y-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54384 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPAE-0006yz-N1; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1116EE3854; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:04:54 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20140325105436.GA468@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2014 06:54:36 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170957 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > David Kastrup : >> "Eric S. Raymond" writes: >> >> > James Cloos : >> >> A git gc --aggressive shrinks the repo from 12G to 200M; it would be >> >> welcome to do that before pushing to gitorious. >> > >> > I'll do that on the next iteration. >> >> Sure that it will have an effect at all then? All the references will >> already be there. > > gc does some repacking and compression, not just garbage collection per se. Sure, but why should any of that end up on gitorious if gitorious already has all the references from the last time you pushed? -- David Kastrup From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:32:52 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140325113252.GA783@thyrsus.com> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> <20140324223928.GA29763@thyrsus.com> <87fvm6ww0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140325105436.GA468@thyrsus.com> <87r45qv8rt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395747209 18402 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2014 11:33:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 12:33:38 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPbu-0007xQ-MM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:33:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41078 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPbu-0008Lz-1G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:33:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60787) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPbn-0008Ls-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:33:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPbj-0001ko-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:52520 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPbe-0001kC-Tg; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:33:22 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43F8A38083E; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r45qv8rt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." 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Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:39:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87mwgev75s.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> <20140324223928.GA29763@thyrsus.com> <87fvm6ww0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140325105436.GA468@thyrsus.com> <87r45qv8rt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140325113252.GA783@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395747590 22883 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2014 11:39:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric S. Raymond" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 12:40:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPi2-0006on-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:39:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41103 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPi2-000387-CL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:39:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPhy-00037o-Cm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:39:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPhx-0004F2-Jm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:39:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47897) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPhx-0004Ex-GX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:39:53 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55073 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPhx-0003Ry-1i; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:39:53 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BE934DF3CE; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:39:43 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20140325113252.GA783@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:32:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170959 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > David Kastrup : >> Sure, but why should any of that end up on gitorious if gitorious >> already has all the references from the last time you pushed? > > The review1 repo has only had one push. If the sole difference before the next push is a git gc --aggressive, it still won't have a reason to fetch anything. If you did a whole history rewrite invalidating all previous references, things will be different. Though then there is not all that much incentive to using the same repository. -- David Kastrup From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:50:11 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140325115011.GA3314@thyrsus.com> References: <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> <20140324223928.GA29763@thyrsus.com> <87fvm6ww0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140325105436.GA468@thyrsus.com> <87r45qv8rt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140325113252.GA783@thyrsus.com> <87mwgev75s.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395748252 31290 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2014 11:50:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 12:51:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPsi-00036D-MF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:51:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41120 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPsg-00011f-9V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:50:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36031) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPsZ-0000sZ-9J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPsV-0007ns-38 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:50:51 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:52638 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSPsQ-0007mX-Ex; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:50:42 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D771238099B; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mwgev75s.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." 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Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:47:25 +0000 Message-ID: <87k3bi1m3m.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> <20140324223928.GA29763@thyrsus.com> <87fvm6ww0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140325105436.GA468@thyrsus.com> <87r45qv8rt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395751658 7760 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2014 12:47:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 13:47:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSQlf-0002Xu-GI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:47:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41553 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSQlf-0003wL-7J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:47:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSQlX-0003pB-Sq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:47:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSQlS-0001by-GV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.22]:35242) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSQlS-0001aK-BC; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:47:34 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129]) by cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1WSQlO-0004o1-FZ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:47:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost (cpc1-benw1-0-0-cust223.16-2.cable.virginm.net [77.96.14.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2PClTrg008116 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:47:30 GMT In-Reply-To: <87r45qv8rt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:04:54 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170963 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > "Eric S. Raymond" writes: >> >> gc does some repacking and compression, not just garbage collection per se. > > Sure, but why should any of that end up on gitorious if gitorious > already has all the references from the last time you pushed? Probably it would be easier to just try it and see. CPUs are generally cheaper to run than brains. Phil From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:04:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87ior2v385.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140322092001.GB31376@thyrsus.com> <20140322110331.GA32641@thyrsus.com> <20140324223928.GA29763@thyrsus.com> <87fvm6ww0u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140325105436.GA468@thyrsus.com> <87r45qv8rt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k3bi1m3m.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395752717 20866 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2014 13:05:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 14:05:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSR2h-0006ja-Iy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:05:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41720 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSR2g-0006g4-SW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:05:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSR2Z-0006aV-Ct for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:05:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSR2T-0007zP-DB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:05:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSR2T-0007zA-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:05:09 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57122 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSR2R-000415-OZ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:05:08 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4B46DF3CE; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:04:42 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87k3bi1m3m.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:47:25 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170965 Archived-At: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> "Eric S. Raymond" writes: >>> >>> gc does some repacking and compression, not just garbage collection per se. >> >> Sure, but why should any of that end up on gitorious if gitorious >> already has all the references from the last time you pushed? > > > Probably it would be easier to just try it and see. CPUs are > generally cheaper to run than brains. Except that we are not talking CPU time here but rather network and storage capacity. For an actual complete history rewrite, it might be more polite to delete the existing repository and recreate it rather than letting 16 Gigabyte per rewrite sit around at Gitorious for three months until git gc finally cleans it up there. -- David Kastrup