From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: frame size&position woes
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:40:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeL0SREjpNo8Q+yyvZbVb7ow_YVQp9y+jz-HWB70WF-nbdn9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51ECEBDB.8010203@gmx.at>
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:22 AM, martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> wrote:
> Admittedly, it's not easy to specify what the height should be in this
> case.
Which highlights that the usefulness of `frame-height' is relatively limited.
> There are various ways to deal with this. Here on Windows most
> GUN/Linux-derived applications
(I suppose GUN/Linux is a NRA-approved GNU/Linux distribution? ;-)
> either truncate menu bar entries if they
> don't fit or don't allow to make a window smaller than the actual width
> of its menu bar.
Honestly, at this point I'd rather have Emacs do one of these things,
that the current "incredible shrinking frame" phenomenon with wrapping
menus that I reported in another message.
> IIUC on Windows we would need a function like `w32-frame-rect' I posted
> earlier and, in addition, need access to a NONCLIENTMETRICS structure to
> determine whether the menubar wrapped or its font is just too high.
> This means that we would have to say whether the height of the window
> rectangle minus those of client rectangle, caption and two borders
> equals the height of a menubar (or some multiple).
I love how two simple requests: "Can I have the dimensions of that
frame, please?" and "Can I create another frame with that very same
metrics?" get so complex and GUI dependent answers.
> The idea would be to start with an invisible frame and making it visible
> once we're done. But I'm 100% sure that many platforms won't get us the
> metrics of an invisible frame.
Yeah, I suspect as much.
> I hardly ever know whether and when `modify-frame-parameters' has a
> visible effect. This function is a time bomb.
I'd agree that modify-frame-parameters (and/or the frame parameters
per se) are a bit underspecified, yes.
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-22 9:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-21 12:56 frame size&position woes Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-21 12:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-21 14:03 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-21 15:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-21 15:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-22 8:22 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-22 9:40 ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2013-07-22 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-22 20:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-23 2:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-23 23:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-24 3:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-24 10:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-24 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-24 14:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-24 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-24 17:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-24 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-24 17:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
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