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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298845 Archived-At: --0000000000000afd3e05ec538a26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 7:28 AM Gerd M=C3=B6llmann wrote: > > But let me add, as notorious trouble-maker, that shorthands consist of > problems only. The fact that no-one seems to want to ask why I think > that, I interpret as meaning that this is a well-known fact :-). > Please elaborate. > Let's see. I hope that ideology doesn't play a role in Emacs, and > Richard simply didn't have the necessary information to change his mind. > Ideology was one motivating factor to choose Bazar and not git, back then. --0000000000000afd3e05ec538a26 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 7:28 AM Gerd = M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellman= n@gmail.com> wrote:
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But let me add, as notorious trouble-maker, that shorthands cons= ist of
problems only.=C2=A0 The fact that no-one seems to want to ask why I think =
that, I interpret as meaning that this is a well-known fact :-).

Please elaborate.
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Let's see.=C2=A0 I hope that i= deology doesn't play a role in Emacs, and
Richard simply didn't have the necessary information to change his mind= .

Ideology was one motivating factor to choose Baz= ar and not git, back then.=C2=A0
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