From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA policy Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:58:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: <563ABD66.6070700@yandex.ru> <563AC64E.9060105@yandex.ru> <87twp0d2xp.fsf@md5i.com> <563B5E82.8070003@yandex.ru> <563B7887.4050205@yandex.ru> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446742722 2462 80.91.229.3 (5 Nov 2015 16:58:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , emacs-devel To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 05 17:58:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuNrw-0008R8-Dg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:58:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33530 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuNrv-0003MF-Uj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:58:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50390) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuNrs-0003M8-ME for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:58:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuNrk-0005Nv-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:58:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::229]:35829) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuNrk-0005Lp-Gm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:58:24 -0500 Original-Received: by lbbes7 with SMTP id es7so39898304lbb.2 for ; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:58:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=D109GMCSn9OpYKvYJ5ptu1VTKOD2Uyx4Aq05tDQmLSA=; b=LdW5LuRAW3m8LUZ64AB9/R8hcofEd2sSZss2XA5E7MqQFwzNWrjHIaj5hVbjld8t6n bi7qfX7uRwrrqq3LyKcnlLuBq1ClxUIStNOgKIOSjUslS1ptGBR2wteVmU8w8SzXOlon 3P+wd50ZYq+AbsoqcADXnlPMJmaNoDDFhsa4lHrAePDP1x5asPX61K1vJo9bSh3BK8tj ej9dYzfUp9HACAYvEr5Pej10KzEGPmnXueCblN6wNt8mmbEOF4uES3jY5LLLEnqix8N7 ku3sfsqpmKdKwdsgICYaGJGohoxgajgstZ3sbNYsbekf15jt5/jvQSYQdfyMbUJ/P0Cd eusg== X-Received: by 10.112.157.105 with SMTP id wl9mr4348366lbb.2.1446742703748; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:58:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.112.63.70 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 08:58:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <563B7887.4050205@yandex.ru> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b66iPk0UEc4FGelSVrBBMUdZ_Kc X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193319 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 11/05/2015 05:09 PM, John Wiegley wrote: > >> I'd like to know more about this. How does the user access these bundled >> packages; by installing them with M-x package-install? > > By having them in the default load-path somewhere already, I imagine. There are a few possible levels this could go. But yes, the basic idea is that these bundled packages would be pulled from Gelpa into some subdir of emacs/lisp when making the tarball and autoloading/byte-compilation would be done. So they'd be available like any other built-in package. The advantage over just keeping the packages there in the first place is that packages offered on GElpa can be updated more frequently. A second level would be to do this in such a way that allows Emacs packages to depend on these pulled-in Gelpa packages. This would require changes to the build process, not just the tarball. > I think Fabian was looking into making that happen, but I can't find > the respective thread right now. I think I asked about this a couple of months ago, and Stefan (?) wrote a very nice explanation of what his thoughts were on this possible future.