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From: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Elpa packages and macro dependencies.
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:39:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAdUY-Jf2P2q0xz=OODvUJfPw6Etha+GyOqEoJC95BaFrTCaow@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761fjsp2c.fsf@Rainer.invalid>

Achim Gratz:
> That doesn't work when defcustoms, autoloads and defvars change in the
> new version.

It would be good to fix autoloads indeed, but you can't force-reload
defcustoms, or you'll be erasing user customizations.
You could reload them only if its value is still the standard value,
but then users who has customized it would still run into the same
problem.

That said, IIUC, defcustoms and defvars aren't really a huge problem.
They're only problematic if the package author changes something in a
backwards-incompatible way (thus making an old defcustom not work with
new code). And even then, things should resume normality after a restart.


Or am I missing something?


The problem with macros is that they break installation of packages,
and it happens even if all package authors respect backwards
compatibility.



      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-17  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-16 16:06 Elpa packages and macro dependencies bruce.connor.am
2014-10-16 16:09 ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-16 16:56   ` bruce.connor.am
2014-10-16 16:59   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-10-16 17:44   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-16 17:57     ` bruce.connor.am
2014-10-16 19:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-17  8:28         ` bruce.connor.am
2014-10-17 15:54           ` bruce.connor.am
2014-10-17 16:36             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-17 21:24               ` bruce.connor.am
2014-10-18 21:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-20  8:58                   ` Nicolas Richard
2014-10-20  9:33                     ` Artur Malabarba
2014-10-20 19:04                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-20 20:25                         ` Artur Malabarba
2014-10-20 20:40                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13 11:57                       ` Artur Malabarba
2014-11-13 17:34                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-10 18:38                           ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-10 19:14                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-19  6:57               ` Achim Gratz
2014-10-20 15:29                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-20 16:34                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-10-20 18:00                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-20 19:16                       ` Achim Gratz
2014-10-20 21:04                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-21 17:41                           ` Achim Gratz
2014-10-16 21:05     ` Achim Gratz
2014-10-17  3:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-17  8:01         ` Achim Gratz
2014-10-17 12:03           ` Phillip Lord
2014-10-17 13:51             ` Tom Tromey
2014-10-17 12:39           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-17  8:39       ` bruce.connor.am [this message]

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