From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rationalising c[ad]\{2,5\}r. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 19:54:34 -0300 Message-ID: References: <20150311214324.GA2952@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1426114493 17325 80.91.229.3 (11 Mar 2015 22:54:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:54:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 11 23:54:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YVpWd-00060B-2j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 23:54:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57322 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVpWc-0007pW-It for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:54:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVpWP-0007pQ-Fg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:54:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVpWO-0000ON-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:54:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a]:33456) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVpWO-0000Nu-Gh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:54:36 -0400 Original-Received: by labmn12 with SMTP id mn12so12183925lab.0 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5wdRSX/fgan3jkwfuepKGFP6LKCGXd/fw79tBxDZHWA=; b=tuWtffNTNwTpYV5PvC/QIKdCZlPaZTtNXEq73kj4B91E7CcN4/qByFjVxu+N/IAuyK sXPNCGimhliBFHr0uK+chxc9P6DxhyhYOaIQY6H3c/Zr4JvHHfk6ap32bT9jepaVl9NP O8zOXcOAwhWfYs7rgs961SM+MvUlLEjGS2Bz09v4Be5Ai+/W+9Is+r3gKC3JFy1ODBs0 nFI8kDROJokJuUNbHatb+PBYpwih7eYfHSkoXyTGCqWLhaYwh5yiwLECzKQlWRuQAmuf 5WFTcroybNOxvBaY20XXBSATcy+l3surw5RXnT+v0pZZNCvAX1ykG4FK0e3NLkcJIfUe ypkA== X-Received: by 10.112.146.70 with SMTP id ta6mr13503993lbb.59.1426114474496; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.112.207.225 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: u31eVDfcSLbl62QPRWkxOHleIXM X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:183793 Archived-At: >> 1. caar, cadr, cdar, and cddr are defined in subr.el; >> 2. c[ad]\{3,4\}r are actually called cl-caaar, etc; > > Gag. Why is that? My guess is that these were initially defined in `cl.el' (which, if that's the case, I agree was a mistake), and afterwards all cl functions were renamed to `cl-' prefixes by cl-lib (in the process of abolishing `cl.el'). >> and there will be compatibility aliases for cl-caaadr etc.. > > Why? Why is that needed? To not make it harder for developers to support Emacs 24.X > Has this slick cl-* paint job perhaps gotten out of hand? Well, it's not exactly getting worse. It's the same it's always been, isn't it?