From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric? Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 08:28:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: <2a7b9134-af2a-462d-af6c-d02bad60bbe8@default> <834mjecdy7.fsf@gnu.org> <834mjcbydi.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbbs9qd1.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01494344edd77c051ed2b9b2 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441265319 19401 80.91.229.3 (3 Sep 2015 07:28:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 07:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 03 09:28:38 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXOwo-0006tT-9F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 09:28:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45468 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXOwn-0003K6-Rl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 03:28:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXOwT-0003Jt-2X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 03:28:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXOwR-0005i6-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 03:28:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]:33910) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXOwR-0005hs-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 03:28:15 -0400 Original-Received: by laeb10 with SMTP id b10so22914696lae.1 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 00:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ciaxszQjmpnZxjakK3koFuHy35IsygK2/aTOuxLVDxY=; b=fbkHVeOI8IVG1J7NJXbwJ2JuuLRP/ihe5I7OpNs/n47nxBbgZpvQKHGb2U8nXPbGDM 37lsq26b4qsttt6/KvcPkVtCWHLfllO4xAK40LBP+cxcOsWuGTgrO8fwhUOvyc7nk+sI tpmwKyHfHy179goOYAPCoMvLMLbwPM/FLvARotlGWiQmeN165r4UpM5ZTb9NM4GtQau/ +tok6FKB82dFv33XcQ6KHFzbQlppEAEmD2LazvsYWTV9/fEHEu56dNLMF1njHaGEm5lQ eLojm+diN1qBW8BfIELS2R9o3ZvCw4Azo82TpU0IKogrkSM5xNYE9x4l6AFti2plU1HE b2FQ== X-Received: by 10.152.18.164 with SMTP id x4mr20531664lad.35.1441265294889; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 00:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.213.202 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 00:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.213.202 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 00:28:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: VLScKMFtI1uRChkPDEUhi3TgaoI X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189495 Archived-At: --089e01494344edd77c051ed2b9b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 3 Sep 2015 4:08 am, "Jean-Christophe Helary" < jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > That goes against long-standing Emacs practice, and I envision strong > > objections. > > Even if the current behavior were to be emulated by appropriate variables? Yes, and you can count me among those objections. When I first started with emacs, case folding by default was something I liked a lot, before I ever knew how to configure this stuff. I also only learned about lax whitespace when it became the default (IIRC). It was a feature that already existed and yet I had no idea because it wasn't default. --089e01494344edd77c051ed2b9b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8


On 3 Sep 2015 4:08 am, "Jean-Christophe Helary" <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:41, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
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> > That goes against long-standing Emacs practice, and I envision strong
> > objections.
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> Even if the current behavior were to be emulated by appropriate variables?

Yes, and you can count me among those objections.
When I first started with emacs, case folding by default was something I liked a lot, before I ever knew how to configure this stuff.
I also only learned about lax whitespace when it became the default (IIRC). It was a feature that already existed and yet I had no idea because it wasn't default.

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