* More tags/usertags on Debbugs? @ 2016-01-09 2:53 Xue Fuqiao 2016-01-09 2:56 ` Kaushal Modi 2016-01-09 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Xue Fuqiao @ 2016-01-09 2:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Emacs-devel Currently, the available tags are: patch|wontfix|moreinfo|unreproducible|fixed|notabug|easy|pending The available severity levels are: critical|grave|serious|important|normal|minor|wishlist Would it be useful to add more tags or usertags to classify the bugs further? For example: discussion|documentation|inprogress|gnulinux|ns|w32/w64|solaris|website|elpa Sorry if it was proposed before. Any comments? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 2:53 More tags/usertags on Debbugs? Xue Fuqiao @ 2016-01-09 2:56 ` Kaushal Modi 2016-01-09 3:10 ` Xue Fuqiao 2016-01-09 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii 2016-01-09 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Kaushal Modi @ 2016-01-09 2:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xue Fuqiao; +Cc: Emacs developers [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 306 bytes --] When I read the severity levels, I actually wondered if we have more than needed severity tags... How would one distinguish among critical, grave and serious severities? The one lower important could be probably understood as an important bug to be fixed but that which probably does not block a release. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 341 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 2:56 ` Kaushal Modi @ 2016-01-09 3:10 ` Xue Fuqiao 2016-01-09 4:10 ` Kaushal Modi 2016-01-09 9:26 ` Michael Albinus 2016-01-09 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Xue Fuqiao @ 2016-01-09 3:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kaushal Modi; +Cc: Emacs developers On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> wrote: > When I read the severity levels, I actually wondered if we have more than > needed severity tags... How would one distinguish among critical, grave and > serious severities? See https://debbugs.gnu.org/Developer#severities . > The one lower important could be probably understood as an important bug to > be fixed but that which probably does not block a release. FYI - we use the "blocking bug(s)" feature of Debbugs (instead of severity levels) for release-critical bugs. See http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/admin/release-process?id=9f2f14a0725211b13a744573344636b57b9c98b9#n42 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 3:10 ` Xue Fuqiao @ 2016-01-09 4:10 ` Kaushal Modi 2016-01-09 9:26 ` Michael Albinus 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Kaushal Modi @ 2016-01-09 4:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xue Fuqiao; +Cc: Emacs developers [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 860 bytes --] > See https://debbugs.gnu.org/Developer#severities . Thanks! -- Kaushal Modi On Jan 8, 2016 10:10 PM, "Xue Fuqiao" <xfq.free@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> > wrote: > > When I read the severity levels, I actually wondered if we have more than > > needed severity tags... How would one distinguish among critical, grave > and > > serious severities? > > See https://debbugs.gnu.org/Developer#severities . > > > The one lower important could be probably understood as an important bug > to > > be fixed but that which probably does not block a release. > > FYI - we use the "blocking bug(s)" feature of Debbugs (instead of > severity levels) for release-critical bugs. > > See > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/admin/release-process?id=9f2f14a0725211b13a744573344636b57b9c98b9#n42 > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1573 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 3:10 ` Xue Fuqiao 2016-01-09 4:10 ` Kaushal Modi @ 2016-01-09 9:26 ` Michael Albinus 2016-01-10 5:27 ` Xue Fuqiao 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Michael Albinus @ 2016-01-09 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xue Fuqiao; +Cc: Emacs developers, Kaushal Modi Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com> writes: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> wrote: >> When I read the severity levels, I actually wondered if we have more than >> needed severity tags... How would one distinguish among critical, grave and >> serious severities? > > See https://debbugs.gnu.org/Developer#severities . We don't use critical and grave. At least not in the debbugs package from ELPA. Best regards, Michael. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 9:26 ` Michael Albinus @ 2016-01-10 5:27 ` Xue Fuqiao 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Xue Fuqiao @ 2016-01-10 5:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: Emacs developers, Kaushal Modi On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> wrote: > Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> wrote: >>> When I read the severity levels, I actually wondered if we have more than >>> needed severity tags... How would one distinguish among critical, grave and >>> serious severities? >> >> See https://debbugs.gnu.org/Developer#severities . > > We don't use critical and grave. At least not in the debbugs package > from ELPA. I found 8 "grave" Emacs bugs, but all of them were filed before April 2012: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs;archive=both;severity=grave And I found no "critical" bugs. So you're right, we almost don't use these severity levels. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 2:56 ` Kaushal Modi 2016-01-09 3:10 ` Xue Fuqiao @ 2016-01-09 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii 2016-01-11 19:39 ` John Wiegley 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-01-09 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kaushal Modi; +Cc: xfq.free, emacs-devel > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 21:56:35 -0500 > From: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> > Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org> > > When I read the severity levels, I actually wondered if we have more than > needed severity tags... How would one distinguish among critical, grave and > serious severities? They are, and you can't. But these are debbugs levels, and I think it would be a waste of our resources to try fighting that. Instead, I suggest not to use those levels we think are superfluous. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-01-11 19:39 ` John Wiegley 2016-01-11 19:57 ` Michael Albinus 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: John Wiegley @ 2016-01-11 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: xfq.free, emacs-devel, Kaushal Modi >>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> When I read the severity levels, I actually wondered if we have more than >> needed severity tags... How would one distinguish among critical, grave and >> serious severities? > They are, and you can't. But these are debbugs levels, and I think it would > be a waste of our resources to try fighting that. Instead, I suggest not to > use those levels we think are superfluous. Critical/grave/serious: The distinction does not win any bug more attention, or cause it to be fixed any quicker, so "serious" is all we should need. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-11 19:39 ` John Wiegley @ 2016-01-11 19:57 ` Michael Albinus 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Michael Albinus @ 2016-01-11 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: xfq.free, emacs-devel, Kaushal Modi John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes: >>> When I read the severity levels, I actually wondered if we have more than >>> needed severity tags... How would one distinguish among critical, grave and >>> serious severities? > >> They are, and you can't. But these are debbugs levels, and I think it would >> be a waste of our resources to try fighting that. Instead, I suggest not to >> use those levels we think are superfluous. > > Critical/grave/serious: The distinction does not win any bug more attention, > or cause it to be fixed any quicker, so "serious" is all we should need. So does debbugs-gnu.el. Only "serious" is offered from these three. Best regards, Michael. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 2:53 More tags/usertags on Debbugs? Xue Fuqiao 2016-01-09 2:56 ` Kaushal Modi @ 2016-01-09 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii 2016-01-10 5:22 ` Xue Fuqiao 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-01-09 7:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xue Fuqiao; +Cc: emacs-devel > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:53:26 +0800 > From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com> > > Currently, the available tags are: > patch|wontfix|moreinfo|unreproducible|fixed|notabug|easy|pending > > The available severity levels are: > critical|grave|serious|important|normal|minor|wishlist > > Would it be useful to add more tags or usertags to classify the bugs > further? For example: > > discussion|documentation|inprogress|gnulinux|ns|w32/w64|solaris|website|elpa We already have "w32", you can say reassign 1234 emacs,w32 and have it listed for both of these "packages". Other OS-specific tags can be used in the same way. However, this is rarely used. As for others, please describe them in several words, so that they could be discussed in a useful way. Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: More tags/usertags on Debbugs? 2016-01-09 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-01-10 5:22 ` Xue Fuqiao 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Xue Fuqiao @ 2016-01-10 5:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Emacs-devel On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: Hi Eli, >> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:53:26 +0800 >> From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com> >> Would it be useful to add more tags or usertags to classify the bugs >> further? For example: >> >> discussion|documentation|inprogress|gnulinux|ns|w32/w64|solaris|website|elpa > > We already have "w32", you can say > > reassign 1234 emacs,w32 > > and have it listed for both of these "packages". Other OS-specific > tags can be used in the same way. However, this is rarely used. > > As for others, please describe them in several words, so that they > could be discussed in a useful way. The tags I listed were just some examples, not a formal proposal. I don't have a list of useful tags yet, and I'm not even sure if adding more tags/usertags is worth the effort. That is why I wanted to hear what other developers say about this idea. Anyway, I'll explain what the tags I listed above means: discussion: For discussions. Since this kind of issues have bug numbers, they won't be easily forgotten (like some threads in emacs-devel) and the discussion history is easy to navigate/search. Examples are, "Should we move foo.el to lisp/obsolete/?", "Should indentation in Emacs be made from spaces (instead of tabs) by default?" (#20322). documentation: For documentation issues, such as confusing docstrings, bugs in the manuals/tutorials, undocumented features, etc. inprogress: Used when some developer is looking into this issue right now, perhaps. gnulinux|ns|w32/w64|solaris|... : OS-specific tags website: For bugs found on https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ and https://elpa.gnu.org/ elpa: For package.el and GNU ELPA issues, such as deployment, packaging, adding new packages on GNU ELPA, cryptographic keys and signing, etc. Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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