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From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>
To: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:10:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAF+z6H+6s6pV8QyiDu6SSaiD4u0BscG5i0iSUOtYoYF-nUWgg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87txhb3a8n.fsf@informatimago.com>

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon
<pjb@informatimago.com> wrote:
> What I mean is that perhaps concentrating on keys is the wrong thing to
> do, vs. concentrating on bindings and the fact that you can configure
> them as you want, and that the default bindings (foremost the oldest of
> them) are quite _optimized_.

But they are hard to press.  In the Space-cadet keyboard[fn:1], one of
the early Lisp Machine keyboards, Ctrl key besides the space bar
(similar to the position of Alt keys on PC keyboards), and Meta to the
left of Ctrl.  So, the Ctrl key is easier to press than Meta.  This is
why, the key bindings for the most used commands in Emacs involve the
Ctrl key instead of the Meta key, I think.  But Ctrl is not easy to
press now.  Yes, we can move the Ctrl key[fn:2], but many new users
don't know that.

And some commands that are frequently used, such as {open, save, close
buffer}, all require multiple keystrokes with the difficult Ctrl key.

Footnotes:

[fn:1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Space-cadet.jpg

[fn:2] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey

-- 
Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-24 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-22  6:18 Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience JMorte
2013-09-22 11:41 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-22 16:04   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-22 17:27     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-09-22 18:03       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 18:29         ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-22 19:54       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-09-22 17:50     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 17:53       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-22 19:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-22 22:21         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 23:59           ` Jay Belanger
2013-09-23  0:18             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23  0:28               ` Jay Belanger
2013-09-23  6:03               ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23  7:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23  7:30                   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23  8:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23  8:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23  9:26                       ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23  9:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23  9:41                           ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 14:04                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-23 14:23                       ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-24 13:10                       ` Xue Fuqiao [this message]
2013-09-24 13:14                         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-24 17:28                         ` Davis Herring
2013-09-23  6:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 10:29                 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 11:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 11:40                     ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 11:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 13:43                         ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:21                           ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-23 14:31                             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:49                               ` Alp Aker
2013-09-24 12:35                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 14:11                                   ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 14:21                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 17:31                                       ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 17:48                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 18:06                                           ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 19:21                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-25 15:42                                           ` chad
2013-09-25 16:32                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:37                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-24 12:36                             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 16:59                 ` Richard Stallman
2013-09-23  5:10           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-09-24  8:39             ` Juri Linkov
2013-09-23  6:47           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-24 12:55             ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-09-22 15:32 ` Drew Adams

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