From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xfq Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: About the web pages repository Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:11:26 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87ehe5wlgb.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366456289 18489 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2013 11:11:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thien-Thi Nguyen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 20 13:11:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UTVhc-0004Wn-TM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 13:11:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46605 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTVhc-00023H-Cg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 07:11:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48731) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTVhX-00022u-TU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 07:11:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTVhW-0001Mu-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 07:11:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c]:44460) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTVhW-0001Mq-LX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 07:11:26 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c12so1638563ieb.31 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 04:11:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2I2Ak2JQlfomPsPS3uaOjHBCzVtB/Pg9+rKjK/eRgf0=; b=kXs5SeBOC4hFCpsrZtPKeCqYygaPlZr761juZ0lF+HTW4/fuE/psljGlDu0G9G5Nmm seIRaP6IIy/lMol1BbyDCytvndDhxcFp7Q7y5KjUpT99qWBMJDAWeBbPwXFUYRF8UKAx wkn83BUpki1dzy6wPyRch5XVkDImrvgMiHKLzsrsvWJs87eCTlQygFSIQUO84fFpq6Bj PkT/wPgxgoYpO6auwOzWsmCDmUY+9wWuZ2J7GLMQzOb1JSEHx+e3nrAPoUblzQb02nlS 2G7ORvzsLIvsWUXTNpyo8r7NqkrtS+Ec8Ix1pK4tuyJcXl7rFN/NTyqdLWSyx5R6D9uM DWkA== X-Received: by 10.50.65.3 with SMTP id t3mr11271372igs.78.1366456286158; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 04:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.42.178.71 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 04:11:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ehe5wlgb.fsf@zigzag.favinet> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159043 Archived-At: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > Why is the web pages repo of Emacs still using CVS? I cannot find > the original post for this decision, and I know commits to the web > pages repo are less often than the sources repo. But I think it is > more convenient and maintainable to use one VCS for a project > (Emacs). > > The web paegs for all GNU packagess are currently maintained w/ CVS. > Emacs is not special, here. > > On my (tertiary) TODO list is asking for (read-only) access to the web > server in order to document the current maintenance (creation, update) > protocol in the form of a tarball (of scripts) + .texi, for offline > analysis, redesign, and testing. The goal is to raise the protocol's > abstractions and expose a simple configuration item (to savannah) so > that each project's maintainers could choose the VCS for its web pages, > much as they can currently choose the VCS for its source code. Good idea. And we can also learn from XEmacs[fn:1]. > Maybe someone else w/ more time and expertise (in web stuff) can do this > job before me; i for one certainly would not mind (hint hint). > > Once that is in place, we can commence Emacs-specific (i.e., multi-year, > circular, exhausting) discussion on which VCS to use for the web pages, > maybe. That's true. In emacs-devel, there's huge amounts of opinion throwing. People don't agree on things, especially on UI/VCS/freedom. These threads often spans into hundreds of messages and debates. In the end, typically nothing is done or changed. After years, the very same issue pops up again... Footnotes: [fn:1] http://xemacs.org/About/Website.html -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/