From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xfq Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112347: * doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi (defcustom, defun, simplified-beginning-of-buffer, defvar, Building Robots, Review, save-excursion): `defun' and `defcustom' are now macros rather than special forms. (Bug#13853) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:31:08 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87obd8rnk1.fsf@yandex.ru> <9yli8bzriy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366626678 17259 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2013 10:31:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Leo Liu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 22 12:31:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUE1p-0008Mp-1g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:31:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40761 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UUE1o-0003Tf-L4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:31:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UUE1k-0003Sa-Pi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UUE1i-0006H1-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232]:64412) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UUE1d-0006C2-HH; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id aq17so5297000iec.37 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 03:31:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nFu7x+kI/468QXUL7ZruMfIm9kTS3hTNeiorNLpGq0w=; b=WLvLKMTS/02uWf4HdNJL0FWOGPb72asFvHyz+I3ZdKxPc4G+bGv+wBZRLM3XtJMcJn 4FHesZDdFvNIlzcUshurmqyISXVxfV8gjwECLCMe++RS3b8+4QYJrir4T40dhg+ptpqs V2zBGz1MKq1kYvQ1/CtjtH1LGCWHP2YmdlTa9Kghiic6bryE1gwUyGE+qvGbcYwZw58x VZydPLdhe+IHnpi10z9CUAECXy1qNPDJ9LlI876aSURc5fSKVwYv7jL3T1xZBHG6viln tWYkjvAOwdEStFVAEByMS6yoeN0Wo96GeVdLF+voj3cmHZQ3qCuHwTCbzyGJqd5P+Tb3 IYcQ== X-Received: by 10.50.51.226 with SMTP id n2mr7803878igo.25.1366626668801; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 03:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.43.18.10 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 03:31:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159105 Archived-At: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Leo Liu wrote: > On 2013-04-22 02:07 +0800, Glenn Morris wrote: >> The problem I saw with these changes, and the reason I did not fix it >> at the time it was reported. > > Exactly. > > Doc tweaks can easily turn into bikeshedding. I think a general rule > (for all occasional committers) is to fix obvious errors and discuss > uncertain items before jumping the gun. Agreed. I plan to fix all bugs I submitted, and I classified them to obvious errors (and easy to fix), to-be-discussed, and hard-to-fix bugs. I considered this bug as an obvious error, maybe I was wrong. > This commit is a step backwards. Is this change appropriate: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-04/msg00591.html ? -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/