From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Move to a cadence release model? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 07:50:14 +0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447199446 6545 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2015 23:50:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 23:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-devel , John Yates To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 00:50:46 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwIgV-0000Km-Rp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:50:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36220 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwIgU-00044y-TL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:50:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55950) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwIg6-00044s-7X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:50:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwIg5-0002i4-BZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:50:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]:36768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwIg3-0002hr-QH; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:50:15 -0500 Original-Received: by iofh3 with SMTP id h3so18551325iof.3; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:50:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hpV0ROnbo+bW9JSbBuNCn9zZw9+8blfsSKPPKtPRl0c=; b=WuHzW9koDWZewY0srAg/r7FuNEayp4ubbgAiQ5wAFyZHQN/3hsSLEYgU7Kka723z9+ DHcn9My5Tigq2nQpO38ZOnnxw+g4Iu12NGmuH7Sfwmww/4WoVjHY0M7/sp+SJjqfsWzp lNYOZh8CO0e7dJXlCwSd1mNSN+zCW4k7e7goHGATbZx0/JILQBYOWTa1l3qzavY6/gCF dQj/VGkOK5tj5vgqKBTfsvo4we8drTWZLWzY+/8TlSX79HI2WtTmmbtg3GNIXpsevv6K dvymn/ytXvvZ04GP7n4etiust67dtOivg6MDWYb6Yd5xCu1go+WkCpI6t0OIDH3cu+R6 Q6Qw== X-Received: by 10.107.155.149 with SMTP id d143mr6680169ioe.145.1447199414972; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.79.94.2 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194003 Archived-At: On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 2:20 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: Hi Richard, > > I have been impressed with open source projects that have made the change. > > I am now employed at Mathworks which ships mission critical software to > > very large enterprise customers on a 6 month cadence. > > We don't consider Emacs an "open source" project, but that doesn't > mean we can't think about this proposal. However, you haven't said > what it means. Can you please spell out in concrete terms what you > have in mind? I think what John had in mind was to make Emacs release earlier and more frequently (i.e., be time-based instead of feature-based), thus creating a tight feedback loop between developers and users and eliminating the risk of creating a new release that no one will use. This means that users will see smaller changes more frequently. Some examples of this model are Linux (a new release every few months, although there is a separate set of "stable" branches), Firefox (a new release every six weeks), Chromium (roughly the same as Firefox), and LibreOffice (six monthly releases).