From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rename `eww' to `web' Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 06:41:13 +0800 Message-ID: References: <8738s087wj.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo6mjv4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871u7gavwx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87obaj39sc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4btxkb7gw7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k3l72z81.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87obaixhkr.fsf@informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372977680 5989 80.91.229.3 (4 Jul 2013 22:41:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 22:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 05 00:41:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UusDK-0000jp-Md for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 00:41:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45222 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UusDK-0007sk-7a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 18:41:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UusDD-0007ra-RM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 18:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UusDC-0000X9-M4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 18:41:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]:62646) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UusDC-0000X1-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 18:41:14 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 9so4006507iec.19 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 15:41:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=h33Jy/GYQceNxFbkzJGiZ/weaiWbwkPn3oK3AIeM7aM=; b=v6Ui4aoiR8lcDXFUySDQ77d4wgIXkamNuy9S4bHg6mArCevD9Ugk9+D2gAZ+Smk8C9 GpYL3KyffO5lDBGOC9DsFdXSZ6EOK6iGvHids7npV81koIe7aw8E0LPeiqr1VI+8Rx9B slQpzejP/zCpeSs1vACrEHFbfTJqFTqbkagvTLWpm7M14U9kK7Uzm1m36wC2KbSHuwo9 ynuOeGl8PpfkPhsYbGnElHgBxWsz2/IW/Q6ljnlcZLIo3aN1iD7VGzWiqz/VNzEYp+8W +59igHLAsoAudHvnntEUMolhofg3DqGm8UATBI3hAfh3XXSVh2zddbn6Vu6kJZiRcsBL sKZA== X-Received: by 10.43.133.70 with SMTP id hx6mr3025365icc.34.1372977673958; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 15:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.42.28.3 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:41:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87obaixhkr.fsf@informatimago.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161543 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider >> [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, >> [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. >> >> Years ago, I had a real problem remembering M-x ielm. Because I only used >> this command occasionally, I was never able to remember it. >> One thing I don't understand is why this is better than the *scratch* >> buffer and Lisp Interaction Mode. What are the advantages of ielm? >> Should the *scratch* buffer be implemented by ielm? Or would that >> have some drawback? > > It's not the same kind of interaction. ielm simulates an "interactive" > REPL, like other lisps or shells. Even slime has both kinds of > interactions available, the *scratch* like, and the repl one. > > Also, compare the results: > > (+ 1 2) C-u C-x C-e (+ 3 4) C-u C-x C-e (or perhaps with C-j) in *scratch* displays: > > (+ 1 2)3 (#o3, #x3, ?\C-c) (+ 3 4)7 What does the "(#o3, #x3, ?\C-c)" mean? I can't see it in my *scratch* buffer. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/