From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Feature freezes and Emacs 25 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 07:59:18 +0800 Message-ID: References: <56259FDD.8040401@dancol.org> <87zizeme8k.fsf@tromey.com> <5625B166.3080104@dancol.org> <86zizdczhp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <871tc315y3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83k2pvqg0l.fsf@gnu.org> <837fluqkd1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447113574 31890 80.91.229.3 (9 Nov 2015 23:59:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 23:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii To: Emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 10 00:59:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvwLO-0007bT-7H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 00:59:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56530 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvwLN-0003IM-Nb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:59:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37931) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvwLJ-0003I4-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:59:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvwLI-0003Bn-Cm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:59:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]:36029) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvwLG-0003BN-QX; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:59:18 -0500 Original-Received: by iofh3 with SMTP id h3so36213704iof.3; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:59:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NNaawXPCkJhypFtJO4nWiXsKuOVG0ol+dz6j9tHuQfU=; b=zWE9SJbhIWg6rU4FTOj2V2PmWmFnxrqB9MUSOT/8PTMwYSn3krrRjvTiaXVgB2k89Q pdPoII5HLRVBzHwC9ESJ8MOzMazZUNvVN4gvenhXpUqrBud7mCV1whUbFpXhgRuNf/ND KH0BUqPTgXMpvbfJhyhdzAc339Y1GO8YdLB4E5TSo4XflMxoUUkfzXUwE1IyJ0uk27/p 0L/sds3aKCeAhiHKV/y9gAwue0qNHsffIFi2YCw4Z5Pvy5QiHPK+BwBnV+zGFsbBUruf tlimcWli9soXknkuRHxRqveyaBUdNPkzbjoxw8wSrI4BjHuyBuCtmPbv2YS8mND5Ryj2 ykJg== X-Received: by 10.107.137.226 with SMTP id t95mr1077732ioi.188.1447113558149; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:59:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.79.94.2 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Nov 2015 15:59:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193791 Archived-At: On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:55 AM, John Wiegley wrote: > Let's freeze this Friday, and take a step back. We have several courses open: > > 1. Decide that what we have now should become 24.6. There is no plan for a new Emacs 24 release, unless some critical security vulnerabilities arise and need urgent fixing. > 2. Decide it will become 25.1. > > 3. Decide that we want to bring in more features that aren't yet complete, > and so push the freeze to a future date. > >> We used to cut a release branch fairly early in the pretest , certainly at >> least when the first pretest tarball is put on alpha.gnu.org. Does the above >> mean you want the pretest to be worked on on master instead? > > I'd actually like to know more about our current release flow, before having > that discussion here. I don't know yet what I want in that respect. In case you don't know, here is the new versioning scheme for GNU Emacs: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-09/msg00872.html Actually, I think we should document our release process more explicitly. `admin/FOR-RELEASE' and `admin/notes/versioning' are not enough.