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From: Robert Weiner <rsw@gnu.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, Robert Weiner <rswgnu@gmail.com>,
	Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com>,  Mats Lidell <mats.lidell@cag.se>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:19:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+OMD9jFoRq7PUrGZ=OHFFHTNC9wMHvuz025EUzSiHKQ9_Wm2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2r3bwd760.fsf@newartisans.com>

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On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:51 PM, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> wrote:

> Even Carsten will admit
> he's not a software architect by trade; he did what he did based on what he
> wanted to achieve with Org-mode, and not based on engineering decisions.
>

Well that explains a lot to those of us unfamiliar with the history.  Maybe
the
popularity is based on two things: 1. they provided a welcoming community
that allowed for many people to contribute; 2. they provided the only
significant
solution in these areas to people who wanted to do them within Emacs.


> Now that all the useful work has been done, and experiences gained, it
> could
> be a good time to sift out some of the best of its functionality into
> separate
> modules.


Or produce a coherent set of requirements and have an Emacs-familiar
architect
and programmer (or team) work to produce new implementations with clean
data abstractions, improved visual formats and even higher usability.  Task
tracking, agendas, outlining and literate programming are important daily
work
areas for  many technical people, so Emacs should have excellent tools in
these
areas.  Has anyone examined the org-mode code to see whether it is well
written or not?

Bob

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-17  0:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-15 20:55 Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package) Robert Weiner
2016-06-15 21:53 ` Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole John Wiegley
2016-06-15 22:16   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16  0:39     ` John Wiegley
2016-06-16 14:41       ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 23:18         ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-16 23:51           ` John Wiegley
2016-06-17  0:19             ` Robert Weiner [this message]
2016-06-17  5:02               ` Tom
2016-06-17 15:29                 ` raman
2016-06-17 23:54                 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-18 16:47                 ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-18 17:05                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-28 15:23                 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-06-28 15:43                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-29 14:34                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 15:04                     ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-30 17:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-30 23:02                         ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01  7:45                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-01  8:17                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-01  9:46                               ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-01 20:53                               ` Tom
2016-07-05 18:24                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-01 22:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 23:01                                 ` Allen S. Rout
2016-07-03  0:06                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 18:21                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 19:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 19:53                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 14:26                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 15:41                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-01 22:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-02  7:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-03  0:06                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 18:38                             ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 19:09                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-01 21:11                                 ` Tom
2016-07-02  6:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-03  0:05                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 18:13                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 21:34                                 ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 21:58                                   ` John Mastro
2016-07-02  7:05                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-02  9:13                                     ` Achim Gratz
2016-07-02 10:07                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-02 10:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 18:07                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 19:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 19:57                                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 14:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 15:32                                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 15:42                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 18:08                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-03  0:05                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-03 13:59                                     ` Scott Randby
2016-07-03 14:19                                     ` Scott Randby
2016-07-05 18:02                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-02  9:00                                 ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-02  9:55                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 18:17                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 17:51                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-06-29 16:33                     ` Tom
2016-06-29 17:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-29 20:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 22:15                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2016-06-30  2:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-30 13:41                           ` Allen S. Rout
2016-07-03  0:08                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 17:30                     ` Allen S. Rout
2016-06-29 20:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-30  8:26                     ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-03 22:36                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-04 13:58                         ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-04 21:20                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-04 21:33                             ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-05 22:59                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  4:21                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:29                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  7:12                                 ` Nikolai Weibull
2016-07-06 22:30                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-07 12:09                                     ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]                               ` <921c10a04c17462988c2821ed40582e7@DB5PR01MB1895.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-07-06  8:06                                 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-07 21:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                   ` <33003e1e02b04d2db5ee60baff9a040f@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-07-08 12:23                                     ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-09 16:56                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-10  6:47                                         ` chad brown
2016-07-10 14:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-04 21:33                             ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-05 13:11                               ` Etienne Prud'homme
2016-07-05 14:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 23:03                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  8:49                                   ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-07 21:54                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 10:44                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 16:16                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 17:26                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-07 22:01                               ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                           ` <<E1bKBHv-0000lE-Bw@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-07-04 22:26                             ` Drew Adams
2016-07-05 17:50                           ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-07-05 20:30                         ` joakim
2016-07-06 22:24                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-02  7:18                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-02  8:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 15:49                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-03  0:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 15:53                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-17 13:31               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-06-18 18:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-18 20:31                   ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-19 11:49                     ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-19 12:36                       ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-17 15:27             ` raman
2016-06-16 23:57           ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-17 15:53           ` Karl Fogel
2016-06-18 18:06             ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-20 18:15               ` Karl Fogel
2016-06-20 20:36                 ` Tom
2016-06-28 15:28               ` Eric S Fraga
2016-06-16  8:44 ` Re:Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package) tumashu
2016-06-16 14:07   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 15:38   ` Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole raman
2016-06-16 16:06     ` Robert Weiner

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