From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 25.0.94: Is require failing to define macros and functions at compile time? Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 01:56:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5773E5D6.8040201@gmail.com> <57741C4D.6070103@lanl.gov> Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467266214 31971 80.91.229.3 (30 Jun 2016 05:56:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 05:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?B?Q2zDqW1lbnQgUGl0LS1DbGF1ZGVs?= , Drew Adams , emacs-devel To: "Herring, Davis" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 30 07:56:49 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bIUy0-0005t4-FW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 07:56:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47059 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIUxz-00050v-MY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 01:56:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37856) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIUxt-00050q-Lx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 01:56:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIUxp-0002WE-PZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 01:56:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIUxp-0002Vn-Lo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 01:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f43.google.com ([209.85.218.43]:33257) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bIUxo-0001md-42 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 01:56:36 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f43.google.com with SMTP id u201so50611081oie.0 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:56:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL3ZxS5L4XNrVPOUoYPkAiLK4OirXscHs3lJi6dWw2ADwhzI1AImdQas+74w6I6kfgImqvNUYAOaXhTZQ== X-Received: by 10.202.245.133 with SMTP id t127mr8513885oih.192.1467266195247; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.212.143 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:56:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204976 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Herring, Davis wrote: > If all the libraries fit on one line, yes. If there are so few, why bother with mapc anyway? It reads better to me, just as (+ 2 3 4 5 6) reads better to me than (2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6). My brain sees and processes one operator and then handles the operands. I guess I just see things a bit differently than many others (I find CamelCase distressingly hard to read yet people write it everyday; I think user interfaces are fun to program and should be both highly usable and powerful). > I'm not making any claim that these are "crushing rhetorical blows"; merely pointing out that it's (probably) not worth making the world > more complicated for the sake of curing so mild a problem as this. I agree. Now that I know the significance of top-level placement for require and load during compilation, I can work with it and do whatever needs to be done. Bob