From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Subject: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:02:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <838ty6ecaz.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113cdbf027164305355847a2 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466028197 23917 80.91.229.3 (15 Jun 2016 22:03:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 00:03:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bDItz-00066T-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 00:03:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45310 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDItz-0002fx-5n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDItR-0002XG-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:02:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDItN-0003Hg-Iy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56822) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDItN-0003Hc-Fd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:02:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f49.google.com ([209.85.218.49]:34700) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bDItL-0000R6-Iz; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:02:31 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f49.google.com with SMTP id d132so41471635oig.1; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:02:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLAOqr/VxL10kQTKpvaslWgPqaO7kRxzGysKnqmnolK04qdnKJPYM9HPddZYvNSpHOChds0dOegwZ6wkg== X-Received: by 10.202.98.215 with SMTP id w206mr629400oib.119.1466028150688; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.236.73 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:02:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <838ty6ecaz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204414 Archived-At: --001a113cdbf027164305355847a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > (if (not (display-graphic-p)) > > > ;; Installation of Hyperbole requires a non-dumb terminal > > > ;; instance of Emacs, i.e. under a window system. > > Why do you need that? IOW, what doesn't work on a TTY frame? I don't > expect to see any real problems, since in a modern Emacs version most > features "just work" on TTY frames. Colors, menus, dialogs, mouse, > everything. There could be some old code you have that fails because > it uses low-level or obsolescent APIs, but that's about all I'd > expect. > > So please tell why you needed to enforce display-graphic-p. > ---- Good news with recent updates to Hyperbole, it builds just fine under a tty-based Emacs (V25.0.94), as I just tested it. So I will remove that conditional from the installation instructions. Bob --001a113cdbf027164305355847a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On W= ed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrot= e:

>=C2=A0 > (if (not (display-graphic-p))
>=C2=A0 > ;; Installation of Hyperbole requires a non-dumb terminal >=C2=A0 > ;; instance of Emacs, i.e. under a window system.

Why do you need that?=C2=A0 IOW, what doesn't work on a TTY fram= e?=C2=A0 I don't
expect to see any real problems, since in a modern Emacs version most
features "just work" on TTY frames.=C2=A0 Colors, menus, dialogs,= mouse,
everything.=C2=A0 There could be some old code you have that fails because<= br> it uses low-level or obsolescent APIs, but that's about all I'd
expect.

So please tell why you needed to enforce display-graphic-p.

----
Good news with recent updates to Hyperb= ole, it builds just fine under a tty-based Emacs (V25.0.94), as I just test= ed it.
So I will remove that conditional from the installation in= structions.

Bob
=C2=A0

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