From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.hyperbole.user,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: GNU Hyperbole 5.15 is released for testing and use Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 19:43:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <66cd5a28-8e6d-4f63-8736-532128b5148f@default> Reply-To: rswgnu-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467935065 20900 80.91.229.3 (7 Jul 2016 23:44:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 23:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hyperbole-users , emacs-devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: hyperbole-users-bounces+gehu-hyperbole-users=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Fri Jul 08 01:44:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gehu-hyperbole-users@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLIxv-0001AR-J5 for gehu-hyperbole-users@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 01:44:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42795 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLIxu-0004FF-Pm for gehu-hyperbole-users@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43660) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLIxr-0004Ey-Di for hyperbole-users-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:44:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLIxn-0007Ak-39 for hyperbole-users-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:44:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35290) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLIxm-0007AW-W9; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:44:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com ([209.85.218.41]:34427) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bLIxl-0005oB-9v; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id s66so44944803oif.1; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:44:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL6GuBEvqj4rDU8IrkLJQfXIuCktNkpAlnXnejEriHkvYjR4oRrLREUYNtVkC0GhXqxUVX5PqVnEY7fmQ== X-Received: by 10.157.34.73 with SMTP id o67mr1727891ota.138.1467935048628; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.212.143 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:43:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <66cd5a28-8e6d-4f63-8736-532128b5148f@default> X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: hyperbole-users-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User list for GNU Hyperbole List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: hyperbole-users-bounces+gehu-hyperbole-users=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: "Hyperbole-users" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.hyperbole.user:26 gmane.emacs.devel:205395 Archived-At: On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > info-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org? I think Hyperbole is pretty far along now. The main thing it is lacking is the addition of defcustoms to replace user variables. We plan to do this in the next release and this is the main and only reason left that we have not yet made a full public release. So my question to you is this: should we make a public release of the current version 5.15 or will the user-level change of having customizations saved to their Emacs be so significant that we should wait and just release it when those are added? I have not used defcustoms much, so I would like your thoughts on this. Bob