From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#23873: Emacs 24.0.94: With function argdesc bitstring, Elisp manual does not say how to get arg list Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:43:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871t3edfd9.fsf@gmx.net> Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467413225 7405 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2016 22:47:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 02 00:47:01 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bJ7DA-0003It-JM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 00:47:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36056 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJ7D9-0008Jd-DT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:46:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJ7AG-0003vI-8N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJ7AB-00043R-22 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38876) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJ7AA-000436-Ub for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com ([209.85.218.42]:34661) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bJ7A2-00004t-Ln; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:43:46 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id s66so129223408oif.1; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 15:43:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIIMQiIhF1J55Tx5w0lqiuACw/NEvEwMuXUAy7n9hHQQrBR2E6dqFYHNxlpmim9vT8JkJKzk4d7rUZGyg== X-Received: by 10.157.14.174 with SMTP id 43mr408390otj.83.1467413025915; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.212.143 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:43:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205064 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > When Hyperbole is incorporated into Emacs, it should not override any > function definitions located elsewhere in Emacs. Not one! > > Instead, we should fix those function definitions to do what Hyperbole > needs. Either we could include in their normal definitions the > functionality that Hyperbole uses, or we could give them hooks so that > Hyperbole can add functionality to them in a modular way. I totally agree for the version integrated and look forward to it. If there remains an external package for backwards compatibility, it may still need conditionalized overrides. Bob