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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239243 Archived-At: On August 8, 2019 10:45:49 AM GMT+02:00, martin rudalics wrote: > > VIM, when toggle to visual mode it only highlights the real > > text=2E The rest of the line stays unchanged=2E This is useful to dete= ct > > trailing whitespaces when no set by default > >=2E=2E=2E at the expense of not being able to tell where the region ends = or >starts within a bunch of consecutive newlines =2E=2E=2E > In our case in gui we have a space for new line that can be highlited even= in empty lines at the end of the line=2E In vim this space only exists in = insert mode=2E > > (I am not telling that we >> should adopt that approach, but it looks very reasonable and simple >and > > it is the default in most gui libraries; so also for the users) > >> I think that these are the most extended approaches around (so we >don't > > need to reinvent the wheel) and Eli should make the design choice so >> we/he can start implementing that; otherwise it will be forgotten >after > > hours and hours of arguments and at the end there will be always > > somebody unhappy=2E > >Indeed=2E > >martin --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E