From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Uday S Reddy'" <u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk>, <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: e and pi
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:57:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C415EDF2B2FB44599F326BE046D048B3@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <i73be2$6ut$1@dough.gmane.org>
> The point is not whether `e' is being bound in a let or a defun.
Correct. The point is that one should easily be able to know which `e' is
involved at any point. In particular (see the Subject), a global variable
(constant) intended to represent a math constant should have a global name that
proclaims that unambiguously: "I'm a global math constant".
> Rather, the point is that we should be able to use a variable like `e' as
> a free variable in a closure.
No, that is a completely separate point - not the point of this thread. Or at
least it should not be, even if lexical binding might be one way to circumvent
the `e' constant naming issue (without actually addressing and solving it
properly).
To see this, just substitute `x' or `frobfroth' for `e' in your last sentence
above. Your point remains. It is a valid point, but it is independent of the
question about the math constant `e'.
> We can do so only if it is governed by lexical binding.
Right.
So let's start another thread to sing hurrahs for the possibility of easier and
clearer lexical binding in Emacs. It's just (logically) a different question
than that of poorly named constants `e' and `pi'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-19 0:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-16 13:25 e and pi Stefan Monnier
2010-09-16 13:44 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-09-16 15:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-16 13:47 ` Leo
2010-09-16 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-16 14:27 ` Helmut Eller
2010-09-16 15:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-16 18:52 ` Helmut Eller
2010-09-16 14:44 ` Jason Rumney
2010-09-16 22:54 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-17 0:04 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-09-17 0:14 ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-09-17 7:00 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-17 8:09 ` Simon Leinen
2010-09-17 8:15 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-17 9:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-17 9:21 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-17 9:47 ` Helmut Eller
2010-09-17 15:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-17 15:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-17 15:56 ` Helmut Eller
2010-09-17 22:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-17 15:44 ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-09-17 15:50 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-17 16:06 ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-09-17 16:18 ` Helmut Eller
2010-09-17 16:45 ` Glenn Morris
2010-09-17 17:14 ` Glenn Morris
2010-09-18 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18 10:21 ` Helmut Eller
2010-09-18 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18 11:26 ` Helmut Eller
2010-09-18 10:50 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-18 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18 14:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-09-18 14:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-09-18 15:11 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-17 22:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-18 1:10 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-18 8:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-18 19:10 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-18 21:37 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-09-19 0:57 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-09-18 13:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-09-18 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-18 15:01 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-18 16:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-19 10:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-09-17 16:14 ` Drew Adams
2010-09-18 15:12 ` tomas
2010-09-18 17:52 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-19 19:13 ` tomas
2010-09-17 23:35 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-09-17 16:55 ` Sam Steingold
2010-09-17 22:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-17 22:55 ` Drew Adams
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-09-17 4:20 MON KEY
2010-09-18 5:58 MON KEY
2010-09-18 14:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-19 2:03 ` MON KEY
2010-09-18 16:07 ` David De La Harpe Golden
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