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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296896 Archived-At: > On Oct 3, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> From: Yuan Fu >> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 15:17:35 -0700 >> Cc: chad , >> Po Lu , >> emacs-devel@gnu.org >>=20 >>> Yes. I don't think it's fair to expect the Emacs project to provide >>> such degree of hand-holding. It would place too much burden on our >>> insufficient resources. >>>=20 >>> If downloading and building the tree-sitter language definitions is >>> too much for many users, I expect the Emacs distros to provide >>> prebuilt packages for that. >>=20 >> I brought this up because someone suggested to bundle language = definitions with Emacs for better access. If we decide to not provide = hand-holding, I don=E2=80=99t mind doing less work ;-) >=20 > I think at least at first we should not make this our job. We could > revisit that decision later, based on actual experience and user > feedback, but up front I don't see why we should do this as part of > the Emacs project. I agree.