From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an emacs-humanities mailing list Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:41:27 +0200 Message-ID: References: <10e79eeb32b5d8f49453fe62f145172d@skeletons.cc> <87pn3vr605.fsf@red-bean.com> <837dq3ldvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2ijo3tr.fsf@red-bean.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="370"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: pwr@skeletons.cc, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 30 06:42:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kjbxX-000AZU-Ag for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:42:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52110 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjbxW-0000CJ-BO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 00:42:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjbwK-0007qa-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 00:41:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47533) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjbwK-0000OL-83; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 00:41:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a02:14f:1fe:83ef::bb21:417e] (port=50582) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kjbwJ-0002fY-ER; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 00:41:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87y2ijo3tr.fsf@red-bean.com> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260050 Archived-At: On November 30, 2020 6:40:00 AM GMT+02:00, Karl Fogel wrote: > On 30 Nov 2020, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >However, I don't understand what is expected from the active Emacs > >developers wrt this list=2E It sounds like they will need to subscribe > >to this new list, for it to be useful? >=20 > I don't think we need to assume that=2E Emacs's extensibility and > customizability mean that there are plenty of beneficial suggestions > that users can make to each other without getting active core > developers involved=2E And when a topic does warrant the attention of a > maintainer, then someone from the new list can come find one (perhaps > by posting on Emacs Devel if appropriate)=2E Do you really think this will work? I don't, FWIW=2E How can a group of = people not involved with development answer non-trivial questions, suggest = reporting useful bugs and feature requests etc=2E? Even help-gnu-emacs wou= ld not be the same without several developers dwelling there=2E Posting to= emacs-devel is a slippery path to making this new list a branch of the exi= sting ones, something that this initiative wants explicitly to avoid=2E I'= m probably missing something here=2E