From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ergus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 10:25:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> <3774c435-60d6-a958-77d1-a831599c85c5@gmail.com> <83sgbd1qsz.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6xk27dx.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6422"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: thibaut.verron@gmail.com, nicola.manca85@gmail.com, ams@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, akrl@sdf.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org,Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 20 10:26:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJug9-0001Z8-EF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 10:26:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44980 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJug8-0002RZ-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:26:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJuei-0001KV-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic306-1.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com ([74.6.132.40]:42214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJueg-00048K-Au for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:25:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1600590305; bh=yZ4guZTrII5RZ1psz3Uijz8F9tH12q8IttnFHEO2eNA=; h=Date:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:From:Subject; b=PbukYV6tfL4JSqya7fRmk7DWE4hz+hILRk1xf8a1ujYmuhsC89VkF8D48ALc1nArK4ckAkJIZs9gHAa3EBHpuJqipD/2hLUEvOTUl8GyL4Os4kJQFwsoMf9e28E+Y2jxbvTPtmhb5FUw1cE+N8gHo/OnQqBWxabB0j81J/xCKK11BHVu8OodvL+hqZvKsolJPQwmFi+tOTnpqx4pbsNNIwmCn4rCGJNFTr/CR0n8KLpBEELMuJ8sAZROp8+cD9MebxG2cqSTP+tWoenL6tYx5aZyYcRyaASczhURV/zoHrBNEUCTotVRPiHd0M9yJJCQsfRF6+ZjnsmnqhYXbNZ5JQ== X-YMail-OSG: nDHYfS0VM1mYd2xPdPPNB7LHVgE.n1qDvtSfqid1gRYtTcb8rQX2MIPR15XD_X0 TTyoEmvjImzZVYSa5zwPgEVxZKvMt9F3SstRjBrDFKr6havi5HAhGYpzli9AgsIdKlTbU0Law_NK XP5wUWgT74hB7hbPJ4RZkVqU.YHPRZzyal6vinOkpIdv11NX8xc.WlkvR3LKxgWYdq59fvrORsFh vvYvPBF54M4JuDwRNYph0m6YBdML0D7rNKOIveFHiHQX_Fjr7HX4YY7meI224AnnyAUXr4pAAvHE cSU.8KuKDoFSJYS7U8I3udbRmy4O.lu7v8bnkFtga7lp9h5msQQHBesFeKmVYI4yROtI6o35EeYF Nc7OFIhTOIxbSHM_Ax3P447xBb5KfJBi3rtcpwGUmMWmNMTkpQga2ZMzu9Tm2.FD8kZYXZCCnxMk J3GKgFIjpa_uvJ77wS0euZF0MQheFFZh_MBJBWyDxdgH26lBh6Icsw6aAgtIfVcfM8OdzvI7qeav 6a6XILQF1tLkIuYp.JsVNUJRE2w1Sv6HY3woavetaZ0Z42QCsC3VypK3rnplOjW8GPpCqegSr6Nx H8It55C7qaDM3TIua71EfGuMrYM5tTeZ0qulHJx2pUcWWGGAEFnHxPI_iSIV0phHybXHliQ5rdqB 1SsMZxdYWTKKmgO3oThTQNQaJU8Dx_senIfMJIF3bpruxknoHUWQCjwuK4M9N1CBXjF89ZIII0bZ YVN42N5uL4NvJyFuyRdyxjciC_vmwSaD7LwsMA0SyCbt6F3ABN.1IZaYuoWuSROIkj3VIqo47B84 mOe1E1riQjVYZgYJchjff1uXCGarCJ4WfqIp2wA4BQ Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:25:05 +0000 Original-Received: by smtp418.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 874a45989e730964c9396f53141022a4; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:25:03 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83a6xk27dx.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16583 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=74.6.132.40; envelope-from=spacibba@aol.com; helo=sonic306-1.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/20 03:58:53 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256237 Archived-At: On September 20, 2020 10:13:14 AM GMT+02:00, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 09:45:43 +0200 >> CC: >nicola=2Emanca85@gmail=2Ecom,ams@gnu=2Eorg,stefankangas@gmail=2Ecom,thiba= ut=2Everron@gmail=2Ecom >> From: Ergus >>=20 >> The problem is that 90% of the cases the information there is pretty >> useless (publicity, license, offers for an account) > >But that's not the case with our splash screen: there's a single line >there that shows Copyright, and 2 more lines about the license and >(lack of) warranty=2E All the rest (9 lines) are useful information=2E I agree=2E I just explained why people use to ignore it very often=2E --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E