From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chad Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 23 Mac port Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:03:34 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2282B3B4-D844-4E26-BB94-9F79EEA2E847@gmail.com> <4CE058E8.9010606@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289804639 23277 80.91.229.12 (15 Nov 2010 07:03:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Developers To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 15 08:03:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHt6W-0007aN-CU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:03:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40572 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PHt6V-0000Bv-Uj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:03:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52531 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PHt6M-0000Bk-DZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:03:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PHt6I-0005ex-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu ([18.7.68.35]:53024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PHt6I-0005er-C3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:03:38 -0500 X-AuditID: 12074423-b7bd0ae000000a00-71-4ce0db49014b Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id F0.2D.02560.94BD0EC4; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:03:37 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id oAF73bEr001879; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:03:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.2] (c-71-231-113-235.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.231.113.235]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id oAF73YHq008866 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:03:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4CE058E8.9010606@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAARagHR8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132627 Archived-At: On Nov 14, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Daniel Colascione wrote: > Thanks for continuing to do this work. I still find the AppKit port to > be more reliable and useful than the NS one, and I hope it makes it = into > mainline one day. I wonder if you could be more specific about `reliable' and `useful' in = this context? I use the NS port every day, typically for several hours, and I don't = see reliability issues at all. I build from bzr HEAD every few days (at = least). Is the released version troublesome? Is there some = particularly key use that the appkit port enables but the NS port = doesn't?=20 I don't have any particular horse in this race -- I use the NS port = simply because it's the one that allows me to keep up-to-date best. I = get the sense that there are adherents on each side, but that inertia = (in both ``this is in bzr'' and the ``this one isn't merged into bzr'' = directions) is the ruling factor at the moment. With a prerelease in = the field, it seems like an opportune time to merge or swap is in the = nearish future. Thanks, *Chad *Chad=