From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Qiantan Hong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question collaborative editing - Wikipedia reference Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 06:18:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83eemji6e8.fsf@gnu.org> <20201001141144.GO4797@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201001160136.chwmpollk4d3qc2e@Ergus> <20201004175447.GG15516@protected.rcdrun.com> <87362tvnil.fsf@gmail.com> <20201004194815.GH15516@protected.rcdrun.com> <11EB917D-3276-4D34-8DCD-2336E8062950@mit.edu> <874kn9709y.fsf@red-bean.com> <20201005054829.GU15516@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_72EA0BD0-92BB-463E-9CBE-89763183DCF4"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22665"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Ergus , Fermin , "rms@gnu.org" , Caio Henrique , Noam Postavsky , Emacs developers , Karl Fogel , Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 05 08:19:06 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPJpx-0005nb-Nz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:19:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39208 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPJpw-0002iH-Qj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 02:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40444) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPJpE-0001sD-Qc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 02:18:20 -0400 Original-Received: from outgoing-exchange-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.15]:53082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPJpB-0000YZ-1r; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 02:18:20 -0400 Original-Received: from w92exedge4.exchange.mit.edu (W92EXEDGE4.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.7.73.16]) by outgoing-exchange-1.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 0956I9WP005604; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 02:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from w92expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.74.70) by w92exedge4.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1293.2; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 02:17:18 -0400 Original-Received: from oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.47) by w92expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.74.70) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1365.1; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 02:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.47]) by oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.47]) with mapi id 15.00.1365.000; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 02:18:08 -0400 Thread-Topic: Question collaborative editing - Wikipedia reference Thread-Index: AQHWmtG34LjU6k9HIUyZcJcFcadSFqmIw7eAgAAISQA= In-Reply-To: <20201005054829.GU15516@protected.rcdrun.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [18.18.245.17] Received-SPF: pass client-ip=18.9.28.15; envelope-from=qhong@mit.edu; helo=outgoing-exchange-1.mit.edu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/05 02:18:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Windows 7 (Websense crawler) X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257080 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail=_72EA0BD0-92BB-463E-9CBE-89763183DCF4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Why not straight to be included in Emacs development git? >=20 > I have tried the crdt.el while editing together over network, > collaboratively with two people in real time, and when I yanked text, > I think it did not appear on other side, we were editing together. So > I think yanking does not work. Thanks for you report! What I=E2=80=99m award of is currently undo-related stuff won=E2=80=99t = work =E2=80=94 just haven=E2=80=99t coded for them. Yanking should in general work, at least when I tested on my side it does, but it is very possible that there=E2=80=99s some = bug that makes the emacsen fail to sync correctly =E2=80=94 implementing = distributed system is hard! I=E2=80=99ll try to reproduce the bug on my side. A md5 check and resynchronization mechanism can also be added as a last resort just in case bug happens =E2=80=94 and it can make the system very robust. 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