From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: help-fns.el patch for commands to describe options and commands Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:02:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192946559 12139 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2007 06:02:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:02:39 +0000 (UTC) To: "William Xu" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 21 08:02:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IjTtS-000706-6z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 08:02:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IjTtK-0003N4-Qv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:02:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IjTtH-0003Mz-LN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IjTtF-0003Mn-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IjTtF-0003Mk-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:02:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IjTtE-0003MN-QW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:02:21 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id l9L62GJC024036; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:02:17 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l9L5HnHt008657; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:02:16 -0600 Original-Received: from 141.144.88.58 by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3308310651192946503; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:01:43 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:81339 Archived-At: > I like Drew's idea. But if i have to C-u everytime to see all > functions/variables, then it would be a great pain writing elisps.. > > On the contrary, C-u is not friendly to newbies. So maybe a better > solution is to add/redefine two new bindings, `C-h c' and `C-h o' for > commands and options, respectively. [Currently `C-h c' is binded to > describe-key-briefly, which i find myself nearly never use..] I think that's exactly what I suggested. Maybe we just agree?