From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: help-fns.el patch for commands to describe options and commands Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:57:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87r6jp6v6q.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192935534 24626 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2007 02:58:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Miles Bader" , "Stefan Monnier" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 21 04:58:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IjR1h-0004JQ-IV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:58:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IjR1Z-0006dS-Qj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:58:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IjR1V-0006dC-Re for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:58:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IjR1Q-0006bp-UD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:58:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IjR1Q-0006bj-PI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:58:36 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IjR1H-0001Tw-S6; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id l9L2wOkZ002961; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:58:24 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l9KAI70o022621; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:58:24 -0600 Original-Received: from 141.144.88.58 by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3308532621192935439; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:57:19 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <87r6jp6v6q.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:81331 Archived-At: > I dunno which way should be the default (though I favor the backward > compatible way, I guess), but please, add the functionality, because > it's _useful_ (I'm not talking about newbies, just about my own use; > probably it's useful to newbies in some form too). > > I very often want to peruse the _user interface_ of a package is, and > tend to do this by using "C-h C-f prefix- ?", see what functions there > are, then type the name of one to see how it works. Clearly this gets > tons of noise from the non-command functions, and so it would be _very_ > useful to have a command-only version of C-h C-f. This is off-topic, but you might also find `icicle-imenu-command' useful. It lets you browse among command definitions. It uses the imenu regexp to find functions, and filters the results with `commandp'. Because of this way of defining it, it finds only currently defined commands, however, not commands defined in a file that has not been loaded.