From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: Emacs-Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file'
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:05:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACMEMECFAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <475DD674.5080409@gmail.com>
> > Our experience says that automatic "after" loading is fine for 99% of
> > users (that's all we actually provide in a released version), and that
> > "before" is satisfactory for the rest. (There may be users we haven't
> > encountered who *need* finer control, but the fact that in the 7 years
> > since December 2000 we haven't encountered *one* suggests there are
> > very few.) The reason I suggest providing the "before" option is that
> > I know there are use cases for it. I have never heard of anybody who
> > *needed* it loaded in the middle of the init file. I *have* helped
> > debug problems that happened because customizations were loaded in the
> > middle of the init file rather than at the appropriate end, though.
>
> Ah, now I think I remember. A good way to handle the load
> sequence could be:
>
> 1) load .emacs
> 2) if .emacs did not load custom-file then do that
> immediately after .emacs.
Yes, I mentioned that also. I agree that that is workable. (After loading
.emacs includes, of course, after loading any files .emacs might load.)
> That solves the problem with the loading sequence with very little
> trouble (I believe). Those users which want to use the values from
> custom-set-variables in their .emacs will have to learn to insert
>
> (load custom-file)
>
> in their .emacs but I would expect that to be easy for those users.
Yes, that is what I would suggest too. If loading the custom file "is fine
for 99% of users", then the rest (which, according to Stephen, is nearly the
other 1%) can add (load custom-file) where they want it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-11 6:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-10 19:02 always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file' Drew Adams
2007-12-10 19:21 ` Eric Hanchrow
2007-12-10 20:30 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 21:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-10 21:25 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 22:12 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-10 22:35 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 23:09 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-10 23:19 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 23:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 0:05 ` Jason Rumney
2007-12-11 0:16 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 22:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-10 23:06 ` David Kastrup
2007-12-11 0:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-10 23:08 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 0:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-10 22:08 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-10 23:45 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-11 0:14 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-11 1:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-11 6:05 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2007-12-11 0:47 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 2:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-11 6:15 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 9:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-11 16:57 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-12 10:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-12 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 19:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-11 19:12 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-10 21:58 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 4:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-11 6:04 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 14:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-11 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 22:12 ` David Kastrup
2007-12-10 22:07 ` Jason Rumney
2007-12-10 23:08 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 3:02 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-12-11 6:06 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 11:39 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-12-11 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 19:00 ` Richard Stallman
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