From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: can't set both mode-line color and default frame font? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:37:41 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190212957 28956 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2007 14:42:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:42:37 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 19 16:42:24 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IY0hh-0002Oj-Tg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:39:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IY0hg-0001qy-03 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:39:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IY0hd-0001qJ-FZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:38:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IY0ha-0001ps-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:38:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IY0ha-0001pi-R4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IY0ha-0001SF-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l8JEcnRi024903 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:38:49 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l8JEcgdh017786 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:38:43 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-66-217.vpn.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3225551561190212646; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:37:26 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79315 Archived-At: > >> I meant that if Lisp does choose -to- customize, that should > >> take precedence because it is a choice (there's your reason). > > > And setting a face preference via an X resource is _not_ choosing? > > > I still don't see an argument (a reason) that applies only to > `custom-file' > > and not to X resources. Flip it around, and it makes just as much sense > > (little). > > You're right. Which implies that there's no absolutely always 100% > superior solution. So we can choose between the two based on other > considerations. Just what I was getting at: what those considerations might be. > E.g. the fact that Custom settings are only ever > set by the user for Emacs, whereas X resources may just as well be > set by some global application such as Gnome and may apply to many > more applications than just > Emacs, so they're *in general* less specific. That sounds like a good reason to me - give precedence to what we are pretty sure are individual user preferences over what might not be.