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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Juri Linkov" <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: isearch multiple buffers
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:10:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACKECLCEAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fxzwm975.fsf@jurta.org>

> Another useful type of isearch in Buffer List or Dired is the search
> restricted to the file name column.  This type of isearch should search
> text only in file names.  But the same obstacle prevents installing this
> useful feature: there is no clear way of starting this type of isearch.
>
> This suggests adding a new prefix key for starting different
> isearch types. I think a good mnemonic prefix key would be `M-s'.
> So we could have the following keybindings:
>
> `M-s *' - start multi-buffer isearch in Buffer List
>           or multi-file isearch in Dired;
>
> `M-s |' - start isearch restricted to file names or buffer names
>
> `M-s w' - start word search instead of using the ugly hack of
>           typing C-w as the first keystroke in the minibuffer
>           for editing the search string.

It's true that searching in Dired is not a corner case, unlike searching in
Buffer List.

That convinces me that the other alternative I suggested is better: C-s in
Dired or Buffer List should just ignore the marks. If you want a
multi-(file-)buffer search, then leave Dired or Buffer List before you hit
C-s. That's easy enough (C-x o). And the feedback is immediate, if you
forget, and a quick `C-g' leaves you where you started.

Why would adding special key bindings in Dired and Buffer List be better
than this?

The question of a key binding to search only file names in Dired has come up
before. We discussed generalizing that to the other Dired "fields", if they
ever get defined. I mentioned that I just hide everything except the file
names (one keystroke) before searching. It's true, however, that sometimes
you want to see the other info (e.g. date) at the same time.

A separate key binding is not a bad idea, I guess. I don't see that it needs
to have a dedicated prefix key, however. How about just `M-s'? Or `M-f' (for
file-name)? Or `F'? Or `f' (redundant binding)? Or `C-i' (for isearch), that
is, TAB (only half kidding)? Or `M-i'?

And I don't see that a key for file-name searching has any relation to
multiple-buffer isearch.

Likewise, the inconvenience of entering incremental word search is not
related to multi-buffer isearch. You once advocated an isearch binding for
that, and I agreed. In my own code, I use `C-s M-w', which is simple and
mnemonic. I think RMS opposed it because he wants `M-w' to end the search
and copy the region. If not that key, then another?

This question (incremental word search) comes up again and again - it came
up again yesterday on help-gnu-emacs. We've at least documented the
mysterious `C-s M-e C-w ... C-s' incantation now. I agree with you that it's
time we gave this a proper (simple) binding.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-28  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-06 19:52 isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-07 15:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-08 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-08 19:18   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-08 19:59     ` Eric Hanchrow
2007-10-08 22:52       ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11  9:25         ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-11  9:45           ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 14:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 23:48               ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 17:41             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-11 23:52               ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-12  8:42                 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-12 15:59                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-12 16:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-20  0:08                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21  7:26                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 20:37                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21 23:39                         ` Miles Bader
2007-10-21 23:50                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-22  0:51                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-22  1:01                               ` Miles Bader
2007-10-23  7:12                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23  8:17                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-10-23 17:53                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 21:44                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-24  4:22                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25  2:10                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24  8:33                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:01                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 23:33                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24  0:52                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24  4:18                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24  5:51                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24 19:00                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24  4:16                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24  4:51                                         ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24 18:58                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 23:55                                             ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25  4:15                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25  6:21                                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 20:55                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:42                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 11:02                                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-25 22:08                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26  1:30                                                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-26  9:32                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 10:05                                                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-29  0:08                                                     ` Michael Olson
2007-10-26 15:16                                                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-26 15:32                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 15:36                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 15:42                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 18:42                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-26 19:23                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:52                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:49                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:21                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:41                                                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-26 20:01                                                       ` Jason Rumney
2007-10-26 20:19                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 20:01                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 20:38                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-27 13:57                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 15:01                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 17:28                                                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-27 22:16                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 13:50                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 16:45                                                             ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29  7:30                                                               ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 19:42                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-30  7:33                                                                   ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-30 13:52                                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-10-31  7:46                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29  9:21                                                               ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Richard Stallman
2007-10-29  9:21                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 18:38                                                             ` abandon K&R C ?(was: " Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29  9:21                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 19:46                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-29 23:41                                                                   ` abandon K&R C ? Miles Bader
2007-10-29  7:21                                                             ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31  3:35                                                                 ` remove support for Sun windows (was Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-31 23:57                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01  3:09                                                                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-11-01  7:44                                                                 ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-11-09  8:26                                                             ` List of platforms to delete (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-25  6:47                                               ` isearch multiple buffers martin rudalics
2007-10-25  7:02                                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25  8:26                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 11:08                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 11:19                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 14:03                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 14:08                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 20:54                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:56                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25  7:45                                                 ` 8.3 filename restriction Kenichi Handa
2007-10-25 10:53                                                   ` tomas
2007-10-25 22:01                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 12:36                                                   ` martin rudalics
2007-10-25 22:11                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 21:48                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26  3:48                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-22  0:33                           ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-22 23:48                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-23  7:12                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23  7:12                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 23:59                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-24  0:32                             ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24 16:31                               ` buffer order [was: isearch multiple buffers] Drew Adams
2007-10-25  0:47                                 ` buffer order Miles Bader
2007-10-24 21:33                               ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-24 22:52                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24  8:33                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 21:23                               ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25  9:01                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 20:57                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:51                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-10-26 23:05                                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27  0:01                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27  0:19                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27  7:22                                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27 16:20                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:54                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:37                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28  1:31                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 13:50                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 15:03                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-29  9:21                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 23:41                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28  0:18                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28  1:32                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28  3:22                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28  4:14                                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-10-28 10:52                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27  0:13                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27  2:10                                           ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27  2:39                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27  3:46                                               ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27  4:29                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 23:27                                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28  0:10                                             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2007-10-28  1:33                                               ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 13:58                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 16:20                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:47                                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:26                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 13:51                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25  9:01                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-09 20:03     ` Richard Stallman
2008-07-20  0:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20  4:11   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-20 19:34     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 17:21   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-20 19:38     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  3:29       ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-21  9:07         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  6:53       ` Thomas Link
2008-07-21  9:09         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 10:42           ` Thomas Link

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