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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: TAB for non-editing modes
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:40:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACIEPGCCAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46F587E7.6090007@gmail.com>

> >> Why not? I'd rather have TAB run dired-next-line instead of throwing
> >> an error "Buffer is read-only" as it does now.
> >
> > That is truly a waste of a key binding, IMO. `n' does that
> > already. I have nothing against giving `TAB' a useful binding
> > in Dired, but there is no sense duplicating `n' for that.
>
> From a usability point of view I think it is worth pointing out that
> TAB/S-TAB is very often used for "go to next/prev field". A new user
> would probably expect that kind of use in dired too.

Are there "fields" in Dired? If not, what you say is also true for a buffer
foo.txt: TAB and S-TAB should navigate (where?).

Making things easier for new users is as much a concern for me as for you, I
think, but key binding is not a place where we should bend over backwards to
placate what a new user might happen to be used to.

Unless there is no other reason not to. Which there is - there are always
better reasons to choose key bindings, and the number of reasonable key
sequences is limited.

New users and old alike do not need Yet Another Way to get to the next line
in Dired. Please. We already have `dired-next-line' bound to `n', `SPC',
`C-n', and `down'. Isn't that enough?

`TAB' will come in handy for something very useful in Dired one day, I'm
sure of it. Patience, Grasshopper, patience.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-22 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-22  1:18 TAB for non-editing modes Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-22  8:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-25 20:29   ` S-SPC for non-editing modes (was: TAB for non-editing modes) Juri Linkov
2007-09-25 21:14     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 21:59       ` S-SPC for non-editing modes Juri Linkov
2007-09-25 22:12         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 22:09       ` S-SPC for non-editing modes (was: TAB for non-editing modes) Andreas Schwab
2007-09-22 15:47 ` TAB for non-editing modes Richard Stallman
2007-09-22 16:35   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-22 19:01     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-22 21:23       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-22 21:40         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2007-09-22 21:51       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-22 22:16         ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' when read-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-23  0:37           ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' whenread-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-23  1:20             ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined'whenread-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-23  1:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-23  2:18                 ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' when read-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-23 18:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-23 20:42                     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24  1:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24  2:02                         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 15:24                       ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 16:12                         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 17:38                           ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:49                             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:14                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-25 10:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:00                               ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' whenread-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:19                     ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' when read-only? Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 14:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-22 22:44         ` TAB for non-editing modes Drew Adams
2007-09-23 14:48           ` Bastien
2007-09-23 23:59           ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 15:05       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 16:43         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24  0:11           ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-24  0:33             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24  0:46               ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-23 15:04     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-24  0:56       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-24 18:20         ` Richard Stallman

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