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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Dan Nicolaescu" <dann@ics.uci.edu>,
	"Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	"Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>, "Jason Rumney" <jasonr@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Simple Tasks, new TODO category
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:22:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACIEOKCGAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080125175051.GB23780@www.trapp.net>

> > Well, I don't really want to argue about it. I'll just go on record as
> > saying that it is a (classic) mistake. We should at least 
> > provide an escape syntax for such a "special" character.
> 
> Of course: without escape syntax this won't fly. No one may assume that
> a specific character will never be used in a menu label. It still makes
> sense to use one (or two, depending on the way escape is implemented)
> character that is rarely used, to minimize annoyance.

If there is an escape syntax, I have no objection to using a printable character.

However, then something will need to be done to automatically escape that character in generated menu items (Imenu, buffer names, frame names, etc.).

And then how will you deal with code that automatically generates menu items that purposefully contain the keyboard-access character? How will the automatic-escaping code distinguish such occurrences of the character from occurrences that should be escaped?

Wouldn't it make more sense to use a non-printable character? Then, no generated menus would need to be massaged. 

I still haven't seen any reason given, beyond a supposed convenience, why non-printable characters shouldn't be used. What is inconvenient about using an octal code for a non-printable character? This is about Lisp code, not Emacs user interaction, isn't it?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-25 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-19 20:20 Simple Tasks, new TODO category Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-19 20:36 ` Yoni Rabkin
2008-01-19 20:51   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-21  9:07     ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-20  2:51 ` dhruva
2008-01-20 17:10   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-20 17:45     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-20 17:55       ` w32 issues (was: Re: Simple Tasks, new TODO category) Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-20 18:05         ` w32 issues Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-20 18:20           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-20 18:30             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-20 19:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-20 20:04                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-20 20:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-20 20:45                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21 15:08                       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2008-01-21 16:13                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21 16:32                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-21 16:45                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21 17:47                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-20 22:07                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-20 22:38                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-20 23:26                     ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-20 23:31                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-21  0:20                         ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-21  0:50                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-20 23:41                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21  0:12                         ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-21  0:16                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21  0:40                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21  0:52                             ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-21  1:36                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21  1:46                                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-21  2:05                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21  2:12                                     ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-21  2:31                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21  4:12                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-21  1:49                                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-21  2:56                             ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-21  2:03                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21  4:31                                 ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-21  4:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-21 13:07                                     ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-21 19:54                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-21 21:11                                         ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-21 21:17                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21 23:58                                             ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-21 23:09                                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-22  0:33                                                 ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-21 23:55                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-22  1:26                                                     ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-22  1:03                                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-22 10:12                                                         ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-22 14:08                                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-22  0:44                                                   ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-21 23:54                                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-22  4:18                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-22 16:33                                                       ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-22 20:02                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-22 21:00                                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-22 21:43                                                           ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-01-22  9:33                                                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-21 21:55                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-21  4:46                                   ` dhruva
2008-01-21 20:30                           ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-21 20:55                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-21 20:55                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-22 22:29                               ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-22  9:09                             ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-21  4:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-23  1:39                     ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-23  2:29                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-23  3:13                         ` dhruva
2008-01-23 10:20                         ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-23 15:27                           ` dhruva
2008-01-20 17:58       ` Simple Tasks, new TODO category dhruva
2008-01-20 18:13         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-23 22:53       ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-23 23:19         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-23 23:59           ` Drew Adams
2008-01-24  0:09             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-24  0:38               ` Drew Adams
2008-01-24  0:30             ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-24  0:41               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-24  0:46                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-24  0:51                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-24  7:35                     ` Jan Djärv
2008-01-24 10:49                       ` tomas
2008-01-25 16:21                         ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-25 16:45                           ` Drew Adams
2008-01-25 16:53                             ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-25 17:29                               ` Drew Adams
2008-01-25 17:50                                 ` tomas
2008-01-25 18:22                                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2008-01-25 17:52                                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-25 18:14                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-01-25 22:28                                     ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-25 23:39                                       ` Drew Adams
2008-01-25 18:16                                   ` Jan Djärv
2008-01-26 16:00                                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-25 19:52                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-26  1:11                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-26  8:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26  9:42                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-26 14:25                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-26  8:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 16:55                               ` Drew Adams
2008-01-25 17:32                           ` Drew Adams
2008-01-25 17:42                             ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-24  7:25           ` Jan Djärv

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