From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file' Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:12:50 -0800 Message-ID: References: <475DAEAE.2040305@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197324822 26708 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2007 22:13:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 10 23:13:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1qsn-0001mk-3b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:13:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1qsU-00031e-SA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:13:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1qs4-0002ZX-Jd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:13:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1qrz-0002VN-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:13:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1qrz-0002V9-KH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:12:59 -0500 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J1qrz-0005D5-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:13:00 -0500 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id lBAMCsgb031802; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:12:54 -0600 Original-Received: from rcsmt251.oracle.com (rcsmt251.oracle.com [148.87.90.196]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id lBAIEqVJ025146; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:12:52 -0700 Original-Received: from dhcp-4op11-4op12-west-130-35-178-158.us.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3426651941197324767; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:12:47 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <475DAEAE.2040305@gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84987 Archived-At: > > Be very careful. In particular, the natural idea of migrating by > > loading the init file and using Custom to save its internal state to a > > custom-file caused no end of pain to users when it was implemented in > > XEmacs. If there is any error in the init file, you can lose all > > customizations. > > Then it might be best to avoid automatic migration, but to give a > command to migrate custom data to custom-file. I don't see the problem, if it's understood that `custom-file' would not be loaded automatically, but only when (where) the user requests via (load-file custom-file).