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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: recenter-top-bottom
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:53:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACEEHNCFAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yoijk5nxsz0q.fsf@remote1.student.chalmers.se>

> the doc string of scroll-step says this:
> 
>     "If you want scrolling to always be a line at a time, you should set
>     `scroll-conservatively' to a large value rather than set this to 1."

Where "this" refers to `scroll-step', not `scroll-conservatively', presumably. That could be made clearer, BTW. And "a large value" could be made clearer also: example? What's large?

> When scroll-conservatively is changed, it's usually for this reason, I
> think. (See Richard's explanation.)

1. Then change the `recenter-top-bottom' code to use a new user option, or some other existing option that is more appropriate than `scroll-conservatively'.

2. FWIW, the manual, the `scroll-step' doc string, and Richard seem to be saying different things. The manual (Emacs, node Auto Scrolling) says that you can use "a small number" for `scroll-conservatively' to scroll "the text just far enough to bring point back on screen". The doc string of `scroll-step' says that you can use "a large value" for `scroll-conservatively' to scroll "a line at a time". Those can both be true, but they would seem to be different uses of the option. 

Richard says that he sets `scroll-conservatively' to a large value to "bring point onto the screen by scrolling, with even one line of overlap". That doesn't seem to be the same thing as scrolling "a line at a time".

I'm not saying that anyone is wrong or that the doc should be changed (I don't know). And I'm no longer claiming that `scroll-conservatively' is appropriate for `recenter-top-bottom' (use some other option, if you like). I'm saying only that the uses or interpretations of `scroll-conservatively' seem various.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-02  4:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07 13:16 recenter-top-bottom Alan Mackenzie_JWA
2007-11-07 14:09 ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-08  4:42 ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-11 20:16 ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-11 21:47   ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-11 22:38     ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-11 22:59       ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-11 23:06         ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12  0:12         ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-11 23:56           ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12  4:56             ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12  8:33               ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12 13:01                 ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12 13:06                   ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12 12:06             ` recenter-top-bottom Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 13:05               ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-12  5:59   ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  7:17     ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12  8:34     ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12  8:50       ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-12 13:15         ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-12 21:57       ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-12 23:00         ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-13 13:35           ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-13  5:10       ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-14 21:57         ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-14 22:07           ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-14 22:51           ` recenter-top-bottom Bastien
2007-11-14 23:51           ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-15  0:23             ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-15  0:58             ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-15  8:36               ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-15 13:07           ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-15 15:16           ` recenter-top-bottom Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15 15:52             ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-16  4:29             ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-16 18:51               ` recenter-top-bottom Stefan Monnier
2007-12-01 13:55             ` recenter-top-bottom Johan Bockgård
2007-12-01 14:28               ` recenter-top-bottom Leo
2007-12-01 15:48                 ` recenter-top-bottom Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-01 18:33                   ` recenter-top-bottom Leo
2007-12-01 21:07                     ` recenter-top-bottom Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-01 23:41                 ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-12-01 16:22               ` recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-12-01 23:41                 ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-12-02  0:48                   ` scroll-conservatively default (was: Re: recenter-top-bottom) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-02  1:21                     ` scroll-conservatively default Johan Bockgård
2007-12-02  3:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-02  4:52                         ` Drew Adams
2007-12-03 21:20                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-04  4:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04  7:25                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-04 21:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-05  4:29                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-05  2:57                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-05  4:32                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-04  9:28                           ` Leo
2007-12-04 21:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-06  7:49                             ` Miles Bader
2007-12-06 11:10                               ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 11:36                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-06 21:43                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-07  9:46                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-06 21:14                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-06 22:13                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-12-07  3:01                                   ` Miles Bader
2007-12-02  0:47                 ` recenter-top-bottom Johan Bockgård
2007-12-02  4:53                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
     [not found] <OF7E920891.667E3D64-ONC125738C.0058D24D-C125738C.00587C7B@philips.com>
2007-11-07 17:24 ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-07 20:44   ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-07 21:54     ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-08 17:39     ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-06 16:53 recenter-top-bottom Drew Adams
2007-11-06 17:02 ` recenter-top-bottom Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-07  7:55 ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman
2007-11-07  9:25   ` recenter-top-bottom Tassilo Horn
2007-11-08  0:41 ` recenter-top-bottom Juri Linkov
2007-11-11  8:27 ` recenter-top-bottom Alan Mackenzie
2007-11-11 23:54   ` recenter-top-bottom Richard Stallman

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